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[QUOTE="Lou_C, post: 769235, member: 3201"]
As for the "they cheat more than us",  it's reasonable to believe that all elite teams (of which the ACC finally has some) engage in some skirting of the rules.  Just best to assume its happening than pretend it isn't.
 
However, when you are talking about a Clemson or FSU vs. Syracuse or Wake or BC, there is so much within the rules separating them that it's not even worth bringing up as differentiator.  I don't know if some of you have a firm idea what kind of resources are being brought to bear on football at a place like Clemson.  They've got two 7-figure coordinators for God's sake.  Whatever cheating that might go on at a Clemson or FSU is to get an advantage over each other and their SEC peers, not to separate from Syracuse.
 
Point being, you can work away at closing that legitimate gap over time (if the desire and committment is actually there) before you ever have to throw up your hands with "we don't cheat so we can't compete."
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