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[QUOTE="Orijinal, post: 1899045, member: 2359"]
Do I think there is a talent gap? Sure
Absolutely. Do I think the "cupboard is bare?" Absolutely not. Hung with ND for a little more than a half with it believe 7 starters out

What I'm saying is it does a disservice to everyone to say stars are why we are losing. 1. You don't GET stars til you win. You gonna keep saying this with every loss hoping that a 5 star will appear while you are winning 4 or 5 games?

Does the 2017 class have a good start? Yes. 4 stars? One. 5 stars? None. Good players? I bet there's a few there that with coaching consistency will have a great ability to win more than they do this year. Can't blame stars next year

I just want coach to say special teams were inexcusable. Say that some plays were left out on the field and this may have been a MUCH closer game otherwise.

I agree with Dino that the team is not that far off. A mistake here, a mistake there. Some improved red zone play calling, and improved red zone drills to make those plays effective, and maybe this team had a win today.

Things like this have nothing to do with stars
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