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[QUOTE="Crusty, post: 1899570, member: 2265"]
With so many underclassmen in the 2 deep, I think it is fair to say we have a talent gap. Where are the upper class men? 
A senior and red shirt senior on this squad would have been part of the the 2013 and 2012 recruiting classes, respectively. Clearly, 2012 was FHCDM and arguably most of 2013.

Shafer had two classes of his own, 2014 and 2015. Babers reshuffled 2016 so count that as you may.

Couple of points:  1) three times in the 2012 - 2016 recruiting period, the classes were blown up; 2) the cupboard was pretty bare after the 2012 team graduated; 3) our losses and turmoil during Shafer's last year probably hurt recruiting.

It seems obvious to me that while the youngsters on the 2 deep are something to build on, we need a few years of recruiting with Babers staff to get enough ACC caliber players to provide sufficient depth across all three teams. Not to mention the benefits of greater competition for playing time.

Realism is important at this point. We have a very good staff with a system attractive to recruits and we simply need time. This year's W-L record means little to me - progress by the end of the season is more important as is the 2017 recruiting class.
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