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Message: [QUOTE="omniorange, post: 832959, member: 636"] Agree on the Helms. I also think every NIT title at least up to 1960 or so should count as well. We weren't fortunate enough to win any of them, but Louisville has 1 of those and the Johnnies have 3. Now I'm not saying Helms and NITs should be equal to NCAAs, especially NCAAs from the 70s onward, but they should be part of the discussion, imho. Cheers, Neil [/QUOTE]

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