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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 2234961, member: 405"] No, you missed my point, which admittedly was a little subtle. Just because Danforth made a Final Four, we were still a regional program back then, not a national power. Just because we made a Final Four a couple years ago in kind of a flukey run doesn't mean that this hasn't turned into a mediocre ACC team that is expected to be a bubble team at this point, for the 4th year in a row. Like the guy who wants to look at the last nine years' records of Boeheim and Bowden, it's not the last 9 years that makes the trend, it's the last 3 or 4 or 5, and those all look like 2 or 3 steps down from where we were earlier in the decade. The trend is down and the energy just isn't there to bring it back to where it was under the current administration, in my opinion. [/QUOTE]