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Message: [QUOTE="kingottoiii, post: 352539"] Then we are fighting a lost cause. With the move to the ACC plus at least one BCS OOC game plus the disadvantages we face as a private school with no local recruiting, the chances of having a run like the 90s are very slim. Sure we can be an 8-5 type of program every year with an occasional 10-3 but that is what our ceiling is. If people need more than that to "come back" then they will never be back. Too many people want or think we should be VT and we never will be. [/QUOTE]