Long v Hunt

[albanyorange]

We saw an offense that just flowed better.
You can call it statiscally whatever you want but there was a noticable difference in just the feel of the game. The qbs made some freshman Qb mistakes but passes got to receivers and the pace for the most part was better than last 3 wks . I didn't get the feel of lots of confusion I had previously.
Let's see what develops but I gor one had very positive vibes

 

[eddie in nc]

OK, so give me some examples of what Lester did that GM didn't?

It looks like they changed the scheme up front. Not sure if we were runnung a zone blocking scheme previously but it looks like we went to a man scheme today. It just looked simpler, our guys fired out with purpose and put a hat on a hat. I was surprised that the FSU d-line wasn't living in our backfield. We almost, dare I say, controlled the line of scrimmage... maybe thats going to far and I'm not sure if that is directly Lester or not, but assume so

The plays came in quicker

The correct personel groups were in the game to run the desired plays (bubble to TE vs jet sweeps to Irv)

I can't get over the o-line though. That was a tremendous improvement

 

[Crusty]

It looks like they changed the scheme up front. Not sure if we were runnung a zone blocking scheme previously but it looks like we went to a man scheme today. It just looked simpler, our guys fired out with purpose and put a hat on a hat. I was surprised that the FSU d-line wasn't living in our backfield. We almost, dare I say, controlled the line of scrimmage... maybe thats going to far and I'm not sure if that is directly Lester or not, but assume so

The plays came in quicker

The correct personel groups were in the game to run the desired plays (bubble to TE vs jet sweeps to Irv)

I can't get over the o-line though. That was a tremendous improvement

I agree the plays came in faster. I didn't see any changes in blocking schemes though. Not taking anything away from the good job the line did but FSU is not as good up front as UL so that was not so surprising.

As for personnel groups, most was due to injuries. Had Broyld and Bris been available I am not sure what we would have seen.

Irv had a nice gain on a sweep but what was that bubble to Morris?

Maybe its me but I just didn't see all that much different except we passed 56% of the time. Maybe Hunt not making the wrong reads had something to do with it.

I hope it is both. A better OC and better talent on the field. We will soon find out.

 

[qdawgg]

Our quarterbacks were 21-36 58%. Hunt was 57% on the season. I think you are seeing what you want to see.

Between 2 guys who had never started a game in their college life and were playing against the best team in the country.

 

[Crusty]

Our quarterbacks were 21-36 58%. Hunt was 57% on the season. I think you are seeing what you want to see.

This was against FSU so a bit tougher. There were also four drops which would have made them 25-36. They hit receivers in stride on the outs and bubbles as well, which Junt struggles to do. The passes were on average much longer. There is no question these two kids are much more accurate than Hunt.

 

[TheCusian]

I agree the plays came in faster. I didn't see any changes in blocking schemes though. Not taking anything away from the good job the line did but FSU is not as good up front as UL so that was not so surprising. As for personnel groups, most was due to injuries. Had Broyld and Bris been available I am not sure what we would have seen. Irv had a nice gain on a sweep but what was that bubble to Morris? Maybe its me but I just didn't see all that much different except we passed 56% of the time. Maybe Hunt not making the wrong reads had something to do with it. I hope it is both. A better OC and better talent on the field. We will soon find out.

There was a plan and a flow that we haven't seen since Marrone/Hackett/Nassib. I think Lester adjusted to what the defense was giving him.

It just looked like we knew what we were doing. A confidence that's been lacking.

 

[CusefanATL]

i literally didn't read anything other than "Long v Hunt"...

Hunt has to be considered 3rd or 4th string as of 9:18pm on 10/11/14 right? that is common sense to me.

 

[CusefanATL]

OK, so give me some examples of what Lester did that GM didn't?

Got plays in in a timely fashion.

there were at least 3 times against Lville that numerous players were viciously motioning to the sideline to hurry up the plays. and thats only what they showed on TV! i could guess that it was way more than 3x.

 

[Crusty]

Got plays in in a timely fashion.

there were at least 3 times against Lville that numerous players were viciously motioning to the sideline to hurry up the plays. and thats only what they showed on TV! i could guess that it was way more than 3x.

Absolutely, but I was really thinking about play calling.

 

[CusefanATL]

On other thought here... Coming from the SEC, GMC was looking for a Cam Newton clone for his offense, kind of like Prescott from MSU. Hunt has the physical body type that resembles Newton and some of his running skills. As I remember based on the end of last year Hunt's ceiling could have been Newton's, remember people were talking about him as a top 10 QB for the NFL draft.

This year instead of reaching his ceiling, Hunt regressed to his floor and MCD had no back up plan. I think Hunt pressed too much trying to be Cam Newton and that caused his poor decision making and accuracy issues.

Long doesn't fit the mold of Cam Newton so he was bypassed by MCD but I bet Long will be a great pistol qb like Lester likes to run.

UMMMMMMMMM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

cam newton was the NUMBER FRICKING ONE PICK IN THE EN EF EL DRAFT. Terrel Hunt couldn't sniff the NFL as a QB if his life depended on it.

they have NOTHING in common... NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING!!!

 

[NineOneSeven]

Give AJ Long a few steak and potato meals a day

 

[CusefanATL]

Absolutely, but I was really thinking about play calling.

play calling is play calling. sometimes thats just luck of the draw. but a sweep in the end zone to 260 lb rb is awful. but so is giving the ball to a 260 lb rb on 1st from the 10, 2nd from the 5, 3rd from the 6, and then passing a FADE when you get the ball back in the 2nd half from the SIX on 4th. HATED that possession.

 

[eddie in nc]

I agree the plays came in faster. I didn't see any changes in blocking schemes though. Not taking anything away from the good job the line did but FSU is not as good up front as UL so that was not so surprising.

As for personnel groups, most was due to injuries. Had Broyld and Bris been available I am not sure what we would have seen.

Irv had a nice gain on a sweep but what was that bubble to Morris?

Maybe its me but I just didn't see all that much different except we passed 56% of the time. Maybe Hunt not making the wrong reads had something to do with it.

I hope it is both. A better OC and better talent on the field. We will soon find out.

Yeah, there were still some head scratchers. We need to improve in the redzone. AJ actually threw a couple guys open today. Havent seen that in a couple of years.

 

[Crusty]

play calling is play calling. sometimes thats just luck of the draw. but a sweep in the end zone to 260 lb rb is awful. but so is giving the ball to a 260 lb rb on 1st from the 10, 2nd from the 5, 3rd from the 6, and then passing a FADE when you get the ball back in the 2nd half from the SIX on 4th. HATED that possession.

That is what is bothering me. That series and a couple of others. The tempo was good and the execution was better because we scored two TD's. However, we had three INTs, two of them stupid, key drops on both offense and defense.

Lots of good stuff for going forward but mostly the kids and the OL. I am not knocking Lester but I am not sure there is too much to get excited about in the new OC - yet. We should kill Wake and if we don't out up 30 I will be disappointed.

 

[Crusty]

Yeah, there were still some head scratchers. We need to improve in the redzone. AJ actually threw a couple guys open today. Havent seen that in a couple of years.

So did Wilson. I think Wilson has the better long ball but AJ isn't bad, certainly no worse than Hunt's.

AJ missed two TDs - he overthrew West (I think) and threw behind PTG on the flag route. Those looked like 2 sure scores.

 

[anomander]

Between 2 guys who had never started a game in their college life and were playing against the best team in the country.

Yes I am aware. The post you quoted is out of context. My post was in response to Phil77 saying Lester game calling looked much smoother because they were actually completing passes today. I was just showing that they completed passes at the same percentage. I totally agree Long out performed anything Hunt has done this season.

This was against FSU so a bit tougher. There were also four drops which would have made them 25-36. They hit receivers in stride on the outs and bubbles as well, which Junt struggles to do. The passes were on average much longer. There is no question these two kids are much more accurate than Hunt.

see above comment. I agree.

 

[qdawgg]

Yes I am aware. The post you quoted is out of context. My post was in response to Phil77 saying Lester game calling looked much smoother because they were actually completing passes today. I was just showing that they completed passes at the same percentage. I totally agree Long out performed anything Hunt has done this season.

Gotcha, my bad.

 

[AZOrange]

I still kinda feel like if long is the guy were having this discussion with long and someone else next year. Aside from his mistakes I liked how Wilson ripped it. Long was good making plays. But there is still a lot of ugliness in our passing game, aside from ish who is a flat out beast.

 

[alphaorange]

One thing that was different is that we didn't call 44 bubble screens.....anyone saying the offense didn't look completely different is in complete denial. I'm stoked going forward.

 

[rrlbees]

Our quarterbacks were 21-36 58%. Hunt was 57% on the season. I think you are seeing what you want to see.

It's what passes were completed. Bubble screens don't gain much yardage but help completion percentage.

 

[kcsu]

OK, so give me some examples of what Lester did that GM didn't?

He game planned and called a helluva game. You are kidding right?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

One thing that was different is that we didn't call 44 bubble screens...anyone saying the offense didn't look completely different is in complete denial. I'm stoked going forward.

We did call some, and I felt like we threw a lot more traditional screen passes.

I think we executed them a lot better.

 

[rrlbees]

He game planned and called a helluva game. You are kidding right?

The biggest difference was execution and accuracy on some routes. Game planning is not just the OC. It did seem plays came in quicker but that may have also been helped by a reduced play book. I know we took out many of the plays designed for Hunt to read/run.

 

[upperdeck]

it took as all year to run the deep post type route the Ish scored on.. I still dont understand why we dont run more slants. but we need to figure out what the oline can do when we need the tough yards.. not being able to ever run it in is killing any decent play calls we make. we might be better off going 3 TE power down deep and hope a play action play opens up..

 

[rrlbees]

it took as all year to run the deep post type route the Ish scored on.. I still dont understand why we dont run more slants. but we need to figure out what the oline can do when we need the tough yards.. not being able to ever run it in is killing any decent play calls we make. we might be better off going 3 TE power down deep and hope a play action play opens up..

We've run that play plenty this year. Hunt usually missed by 5 yards too high.