looked at cooney in conference before, this time I'll look just overall

[Carolinasu]

At least they cover Cooney - bet no one's happier than Rak when Cooney, G, BJ makes a 3.

Opponents can just put all 5 players in a semi-circle around about 2 feet inside the foul line at the top and extend down the foul lane otherwise.

And to think just 2 years ago all these shooting percentage threads were about Brandon Triche. I wonder who will be our next designated hated chucker?

 

[jdubs30]

Problem is Cooney is a one trick pony. If he's not making his shots, he doesn't do much of anything except maybe having 1 dude glued to him all game. He's below average defensively, can't finish at the rim, and he isn't a good passer. It's hard to get too much on him though because I assume JB thought Cooney would mainly be a 3pt specialist his whole career here, but with all the players we've had leaving early, Cooney has been placed in a huge role that he was probably never meant for.

 

[jdubs30]

And to think just 2 years ago all these shooting percentage threads were about Brandon Triche. I wonder who will be our next designated hated chucker?

Hopefully not Malachi! We need that kid to be a stud.

 

[Ghost]

And to think just 2 years ago all these shooting percentage threads were about Brandon Triche. I wonder who will be our next designated hated chucker?

That was a result of people arguing one season that Triche's misses were the equivalent of assists because he missed so softly, and then saying Jardine was an awful shooter, while arguing on the other side that BT was great, while Scoop shot better than Triche.

Triche wasn't taking bad shots though (for the most part) - I don't think that was ever an argument, just how good of a shooter he truly was. I'm not sure anyone ever suggested he was a chucker.

People completely disregarded every statistic in existence to insist BT was a phenomenal shooter though - that's sort of like this.

 

[NineOneSeven]

It's laughably bad right now

 

[tbonezone]

ok stat guy. let's examine one other aspect of cooney's game.
seems like he neither fouls or gets fouled. he leads the league in minutes played yet commits only 47 fouls and shoots only 72 fts. what's up with that ? stat suggests a lot to me about his style of play. esp. when you consider a lot of those fts were end of game extender slaps.

 

[Millhouse]

ok stat guy. let's examine one other aspect of cooney's game.
seems like he neither fouls or gets fouled. he leads the league in minutes played yet commits only 47 fouls and shoots only 72 fts. what's up with that ? stat suggests a lot to me about his style of play. esp. when you consider a lot of those fts were end of game extender slaps.

you're out of luck, i'm done with homework assignments forever!

 

[tbonezone]

ok. but i'm gonna break down points per shot for ya and blow the lid off this place !

 

[kcsu]

His only problem is that he cant shoot.

 

[JCDATHIRD]

G leads the ACC in 3pt FG% and he has drawn the best defender from the opposition the past few games. ND put Grant on G and Duke put Cook on G. Cooney got Jones from Duke and mainly Connington from ND.
Cooney is a lot easier to shut down because he is mainly a catch and shoot guy. The problem is since he can't create much teams get in his grill and he takes a lot of bad shots.
If Cooney is our best guard next year he better either develop a driving ability or become more selective in his shooting. Gbinije has been so much better than Cooney it is crazy how under appreciated G's performance has been as he will be all-conference.

this post is SPOT on. Like +100

 

[rrlbees]

this post is SPOT on. Like +100

Except he made stuff up.

 

[Alsacs]

Except he made stuff up.

Quinn Cook guarded Gbinije and Tyus Jones guarded Cooney. Fact
Grant guarded both Cooney and Gbinije he switched between the two. Correction fact
G until the past 2 games led the ACC in 3pt % during conference play. Fact

I am sorry I don't dislike Cooney but unlike others I am not the president of his fan club or make excuses for a player asked to do way more than he is capable of. Cooney should be playing less minutes on a better team. He is not an all-conference player like Christmas and Gbinije are. He is a plucky kid who can make shots but isn't consistent and easy to defend. I hope he stays and develops more next year but I doubt it will be much better

Cooney doesn't play any harder than Patterson, Christmas, Gbinije, Roberson but they don't get compliments like they never quit like Cooney gets when its just excuses. I swear the kid gets hurt but all the defenders that come out of for him. I thank the kid for representing SU but he is not Teflon.

 

[tbonezone]

i eliminated the cupcakes and just looked at the 17 conference games. some facts.
cooney's overall ACC fg% of 33.8 is only 6th best on the team.
cooney's ACC 3ptfg% of 28.1 is third best on the team. (#42 ACC overall based on all 30 games.)

his scoring numbers break down thus :
36 deuces. 41 treys, 40 fts. = acc total of 235 points.
to amass these numbers took trevor 228 fg attempts. which equals a net of 1.03 points per shot.

that's the lowest return among our starters.
rax : 302pts/216atts = 1.40 pps
(g) : 256pts/194atts = 1.32 pps
trob: 143pts/124atts = 1.15 pps
kj : 83pts/78 atts = 1.06 pps

in summary :
the guy (TC) who's leading this team in ACC fg attempts actually brings the lowest return per shot.

 

[Brooky03]

i eliminated the cupcakes and just looked at the 17 conference games. some facts.
cooney's overall fg% of 33.8 is only 6th best on the team.
cooney's 3ptfg% of 28.1 is third best on the team

his scoring numbers break down thus :
36 deuces. 41 treys, 40 fts. = acc total of 235 points.
to amass these numbers took trevor 228 fg attempts. which equals a net of 1.03 points per shot.

that the lowest return among our starters.
rax : 302pts/216atts = 1.40 pps
(g) : 256pts/194atts = 1.32 pps
trob: 143pts/124atts = 1.15 pps
kj : 83pts/78 atts = 1.06 pps

in summary :
the guy (TC) who's leading this team in ACC fg attempts actually brings the lowest return per shot.

Since we're sticking with arbitrary cutoffs, Cooney's 3pt percentage through the first 8 conference games was 36%. If we add OOC games, I believe he was 37%. We played tougher competition from that point forward, Cooney faced tougher defenders, and his back injury occurred at some point after this. But yes, I can clearly see how he was the best deep threat on the team for two-thirds of the seaon but now he's the worst shooter to ever put on a Syracuse uniform, ever. Got it.

 

[Millhouse]

Since we're sticking with arbitrary cutoffs, Cooney's 3pt percentage through the first 8 conference games was 36%. If we add OOC games, I believe he was 37%. We played tougher competition from that point forward, Cooney faced tougher defenders, and his back injury occurred at some point after this. But yes, I can clearly see how he was the best deep threat on the team for two-thirds of the seaon but now he's the worst shooter to ever put on a Syracuse uniform, ever. Got it.

you're getting too emotional again, ignoreometer alert rising!

i like that you said ever twice. even though he's clearly only talking about the players this year with substantial minutes

 

[Brooky03]

you're getting too emotional again, ignoreometer alert rising!

i like that you said ever twice. even though he's clearly only talking about the players this year with substantial minutes

How does one gauge emotion by reading text on a message board? You read my messages in the voice you assign to me. To assume I'm emotional is a reflection on you.

 

[manleyzoo]

Since we're sticking with arbitrary cutoffs, Cooney's 3pt percentage through the first 8 conference games was 36%. If we add OOC games, I believe he was 37%. We played tougher competition from that point forward, Cooney faced tougher defenders, and his back injury occurred at some point after this. But yes, I can clearly see how he was the best deep threat on the team for two-thirds of the seaon but now he's the worst shooter to ever put on a Syracuse uniform, ever. Got it.

Again with the Cooney excuses. Let's see...he was defended, his back hurt, he's tired, he's overworked, he's commanded to shoot--what happened to he had the sniffles? Or how about his shorts were too tight? To be an actual threat, you actually have to, you know, actually be threatening. Pouring in 1 pt per shot and connecting once on every four attempts isn't very threatening.

 

[tbonezone]

he's definitely a threat to go off for 30 points any given night. it's just that he has to take 29 shots.