Looks like Orlando OT Shawn Curtis

[PhatOrange]

will be officially visiting Syracuse. 6-5 270

Looks like the 5 are:

Syracuse
Iowa State
NC State
South Florida
Mississippi State

 

[sutomcat]

will be officially visiting Syracuse. 6-5 270

Looks like the 5 are:

Syracuse
Iowa State
NC State
South Florida
Mississippi State

We are trying to get 3 OL in this class. Only position where I think we are not doing well in the class to date. I know the staff likes Curtis a lot. We really need him to make our number.

 

[NailstheCusefan12]

Like the other 4 schools we're grouped with here. Need a few big uglies to sure things up going forward. Looks to have a big frame that could add weight and muscle.

 

[Symphony Steve]

Well, he's all projection. Certainly didn't look dominant or overpowering. Basically clay to be molded. Didn't see great knee-bend. His development would be all on the coaches. Glad he's visiting, but don't feel like we've GOTTA get him.

 

[Upstate]

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/colleges/florida/post?id=8294

Four-star offensive lineman Shawn Curtis (Orlando, Fla./Olympia) has around 20 scholarship offers, but the 6-foot-6, 279-pound tackle prospects says that four schools are sticking out for him.

"USF, NC State, Mississippi State and Syracuse are probably sticking out to me the most right now," Curtis said. "Duke is also standing out some, too.

Curtis says a big reason for Mississippi State being in his top schools is because the Bulldogs are in the SEC.

 

[CuseLegacy]

He might want to rethink Mississippi.

"Mississippi State on Thursday confirmed an ongoing NCAA investigation into a "potential recruiting irregularity." The school said the investigation is "nearing an end" and it will cooperate fully.



"That's been going on for the last several months," Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen said following Thursday's practice. "I'm not able to comment on any of that."
Wide receivers coach Angelo Mirando resigned Sunday, less than two weeks before the season opener against Jackson State, in the wake of an ongoing NCAA investigation related to his recruitment of at least one player on the Bulldogs' roster. "

 

[tep624]

Pretty confident he falls in the "must get" category now.

 

[Rocco]

This kid has a legit 6'6" frame that he could get up to 310-315 after a year or 2 with Hicks. Yes, Hicks.

 

[JD]

This kid has a legit 6'6" frame that he could get up to 310-315 after a year or 2 with Hicks. Yes, Hicks.

Will Hicks is sooo bad that all-pro players come back year after year to train with him.

 

[Orangetradition44]

Maybe his free workouts with all-pros are taking away from his ACTUAL job?

Will Hicks is sooo bad that all-pro players come back year after year to train with him.

 

[JD]

Maybe his free workouts with all-pros are taking away from his ACTUAL job?

look at the pictures of the team this year and compare them to prior years, how exactly has he been doing a bad job.

 

[CaliCuse]

Will Hicks is sooo bad that all-pro players come back year after year to train with him.

Agree. I fail to comprehend theBS laid on this guy. Those who work hard with him show improvement. Thoses going through the motions ,will not . Its simple. Beating on Hicks doesn't justify anything. Our program isn't stumbling because of him. There are plenty of those who were/are responsible to get the finger. "pointed "at them.

We are trying to get 3 OL in this class. Only position where I think we are not doing well in the class to date. I know the staff likes Curtis a lot. We really need him to make our number.

Start with the local Officer please and then add a couple more plow horses.

 

[Orangetradition44]

Injuries and game performance tell the tale IMO.

We are rarely the better conditioned team on the field, and it's obvious. If you're not going to have better talent, then at least out condition the other guy.

People lay the blame of conditioning during grob's years on grob... But hicks was in charge of conditioning. The only reason your year over year comparison is positive is because hicks allowed the conditioning and strength of the team to plummet so far.

Just my opinion, with no insider knowledge, based solely on my own observations.

look at the pictures of the team this year and compare them to prior years, how exactly has he been doing a bad job.

 

[wfschrec]

Injuries and game performance tell the tale IMO.

We are rarely the better conditioned team on the field, and it's obvious. If you're not going to have better talent, then at least out condition the other guy.

People lay the blame of conditioning during grob's years on grob... But hicks was in charge of conditioning. The only reason your year over year comparison is positive is because hicks allowed the conditioning and strength of the team to plummet so far.

Just my opinion, with no insider knowledge, based solely on my own observations.

They had no depth ... this is why conditioning appeared to be so poor ... other teams were utilizing full blown rotations ... Cuse did not have that luxury and that is the one thing people keep pointing back to ... we now have 80+ players on schollies ... for the first time in quite some time.

 

[Orangetradition44]

Marrone himself said the team's strength and conditioning was poor when he arrived. Everyone blamed it on Grob. But hicks has to take SOME blame, doesn't he? Sometimes I think we keep Hicks because of Freeney.

They had no depth ... this is why conditioning appeared to be so poor ... other teams were utilizing full blown rotations ... Cuse did not have that luxury and that is the one thing people keep pointing back to ... we now have 80+ players on schollies ... for the first time in quite some time.

 

[RF2044]

We are trying to get 3 OL in this class. Only position where I think we are not doing well in the class to date. I know the staff likes Curtis a lot. We really need him to make our number.

Tomcat, what would you think of a OL class of Officer, Curtis, and the kid from Bromley's high school [we should have a pretty good in there]?

 

[RICuse44]

Marrone himself said the team's strength and conditioning was poor when he arrived. Everyone blamed it on Grob. But hicks has to take SOME blame, doesn't he? Sometimes I think we keep Hicks because of Freeney.

In my opinion, there is only so much you can do in off season workouts. There is track conditioning and football conditioning. It takes actual contact that you get in practice to get yourself in game shape. For that reason, and basically everything else that has gone wrong with the world since 2005, I blame Greg Robinson not Will Hicks. The head coach runs practice and at the end of the day its his job to make sure his team gets the right practice reps to be ready for game day.

 

[CaliCuse]

Injuries and game performance tell the tale IMO.

We are rarely the better conditioned team on the field, and it's obvious. If you're not going to have better talent, then at least out condition the other guy.

People lay the blame of conditioning during grob's years on grob... But hicks was in charge of conditioning. The only reason your year over year comparison is positive is because hicks allowed the conditioning and strength of the team to plummet so far.

Just my opinion, with no insider knowledge, based solely on my own observations.

If there was "insider" information regarding any dissatisfaction,Hicks would be replaced. They dumped Dan Conley and there was allegiance for that man.

 

[wfschrec]

Marrone himself said the team's strength and conditioning was poor when he arrived. Everyone blamed it on Grob. But hicks has to take SOME blame, doesn't he? Sometimes I think we keep Hicks because of Freeney.

If you recall when Browning came in the entire OL suddenly got into better shape ... frankly its on the coaches ... especially if they are dictating the workouts or workout schedule ... hell look at every DC that has worked for RichRod ... the guy insists on running his 3-3-5 and has ended more careers than cancer ...

 

[bnoro]

If there was "insider" information regarding any dissatisfaction,Hicks would be replaced. They dumped Dan Conley and there was allegiance for that man.

You shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about, Cali.

Also, blaming injuries on Hicks is ridiculous.

 

[sutomcat]

Tomcat, what would you think of a OL class of Officer, Curtis, and the kid from Bromley's high school [we should have a pretty good in there]?

Daryl Webster is the kid from Flushing HS you are referring to.

I would not be enthused with that class. The problem isn't the players per se, it is with the needs of the program and the breakdown of where they are projected to play.

I think we would like to take 3 OTs in this class but would settle for 2 OTs and a hybrid OT/OG. We have a lot of young OL but almost all the experienced players are OT; we don't have many young OT. Of the three OT projected to play this year, Pugh, Hickey, Alexander, Alexander is a senior and will be gone next season, Pugh is a junior and is eligible to leave early and be drafted (and is good enough to do this if he chooses). We could easily only have Hickey back next season and as a junior then, he could leave after the season as well (and is good enough so he might be able to if he chooses). Plus Andy Phillips, backup OL extraordinaire, is also a senior and will be gone next season. The loss of Kris Curtis made a bad situation and alarmingly bad one. With Emerich moved to center (which was necessary, we need to develop a replacement for Mackey starting now), Knapp is really the only young OT we have on the roster.
If things don't change, we are going to be forced to move natural guards like Trudo or Robinson to OT, weakening two positions. Not good.

We are in a lot better shape at OG and C. No worries at either position in terms of numbers.

Webster is 6 1.5, 320 pounds. His measureables are not great. 5.95 40. 20' vertical. 16 reps with the benchpress. I like his aggressiveness but he is really raw and at his height, he is never going to be an OT. His best bet is to become really strong and become a center I think. Right now, I think he will likely have to prep or go the JUCO route to get a scholarship. Anyway, I see him as a decent prospect at a position we don't have a great need for.

Officer has a prototype body and skill set to be an OG. That is where I see him playing in college. He would be our ideal OG recruit who could also play OT in a pinch.

That leaves room for 2 OTs. Curtis is a natural OT, looks well suited to that position. He would be a no-brainer if we are fortunate enough to land him. We need another athletic, 6'5 or taller kid to fill out the class.

I don't know, maybe we make a play on Tommy Hopkins and try and take him from UConn. But the staff saw him and opted not to offer. I don't think that happens.

I bet the 3rd OL recruit is a JUCO OT that no one has ever heard of. That is not what the staff wanted but I think they need someone who will be ready to play almost right away. Even Curtis is really light for OT and will need at least a year to get ready to play at the BCS level.

 

[orangefog]

Daryl Webster is the kid from Flushing HS you are referring to.

I would not be enthused with that class. The problem isn't the players per se, it is with the needs of the program and the breakdown of where they are projected to play.

I think we would like to take 3 OTs in this class but would settle for 2 OTs and a hybrid OT/OG. We have a lot of young OL but almost all the experienced players are OT; we don't have many young OT. Of the three OT projected to play this year, Pugh, Hickey, Alexander, Alexander is a senior and will be gone next season, Pugh is a junior and is eligible to leave early and be drafted (and is good enough to do this if he chooses). We could easily only have Hickey back next season and as a junior then, he could leave after the season as well (and is good enough so he might be able to if he chooses). Plus Andy Phillips, backup OL extraordinaire, is also a senior and will be gone next season. The loss of Kris Curtis made a bad situation and alarmingly bad one. With Emerich moved to center (which was necessary, we need to develop a replacement for Mackey starting now), Knapp is really the only young OT we have on the roster.
If things don't change, we are going to be forced to move natural guards like Trudo or Robinson to OT, weakening two positions. Not good.

We are in a lot better shape at OG and C. No worries at either position in terms of numbers.

Webster is 6 1.5, 320 pounds. His measureables are not great. 5.95 40. 20' vertical. 16 reps with the benchpress. I like his aggressiveness but he is really raw and at his height, he is never going to be an OT. His best bet is to become really strong and become a center I think. Right now, I think he will likely have to prep or go the JUCO route to get a scholarship. Anyway, I see him as a decent prospect at a position we don't have a great need for.

Officer has a prototype body and skill set to be an OG. That is where I see him playing in college. He would be our ideal OG recruit who could also play OT in a pinch.

That leaves room for 2 OTs. Curtis is a natural OT, looks well suited to that position. He would be a no-brainer if we are fortunate enough to land him. We need another athletic, 6'5 or taller kid to fill out the class.

I don't know, maybe we make a play on Tommy Hopkins and try and take him from UConn. But the staff saw him and opted not to offer. I don't think that happens.

I bet the 3rd OL recruit is a JUCO OT that no one has ever heard of. That is not what the staff wanted but I think they need someone who will be ready to play almost right away. Even Curtis is really light for OT and will need at least a year to get ready to play at the BCS level.

Wow, after reading that, I feel like an expert on the situation. That was very very informative and appreciated.

 

[PhatOrange]

These are two top shelf Northeast lineman I’d be recruiting 24/7 right now. Everything and the kitchen sink.

OL Brandon Mahone - Committed to Penn State
Randolph, NJ
6-5 315

OL Andrew Nelson - Committed to Penn State
Hershey, PA (same school as Harold Brantley)
6-5 265

It would be infuriating if we aren’t trying to flip these kids because of the Marrone / OBrien relationship. Paterno never had any problem poaching Pasqualoni’s (or even Schiano’s) kids.

This is the other kid I’d be recruiting relentlessly right now.

Brandon Bell
Inside Linebacker
Mays Landing, NJ
6-1 224

Committed to Penn State

 

[tep624]

These are two top shelf Northeast lineman I’d be recruiting 24/7 right now. Everything and the kitchen sink.

OL Brandon Mahone - Committed to Penn State
Randolph, NJ
6-5 315

OL Andrew Nelson - Committed to Penn State
Hershey, PA (same school as Harold Brantley)
6-5 265

It would be infuriating if we aren’t trying to flip these kids because of the Marrone / OBrien relationship. Paterno never had any problem poaching Pasqualoni’s (or even Schiano’s) kids.

This is the other kid I’d be recruiting relentlessly right now.

Brandon Bell
Inside Linebacker
Mays Landing, NJ
6-1 224

Committed to Penn State

Agree 100%.

 

[RF2044]

Daryl Webster is the kid from Flushing HS you are referring to.

I would not be enthused with that class. The problem isn't the players per se, it is with the needs of the program and the breakdown of where they are projected to play.

I think we would like to take 3 OTs in this class but would settle for 2 OTs and a hybrid OT/OG. We have a lot of young OL but almost all the experienced players are OT; we don't have many young OT. Of the three OT projected to play this year, Pugh, Hickey, Alexander, Alexander is a senior and will be gone next season, Pugh is a junior and is eligible to leave early and be drafted (and is good enough to do this if he chooses). We could easily only have Hickey back next season and as a junior then, he could leave after the season as well (and is good enough so he might be able to if he chooses). Plus Andy Phillips, backup OL extraordinaire, is also a senior and will be gone next season. The loss of Kris Curtis made a bad situation and alarmingly bad one. With Emerich moved to center (which was necessary, we need to develop a replacement for Mackey starting now), Knapp is really the only young OT we have on the roster.
If things don't change, we are going to be forced to move natural guards like Trudo or Robinson to OT, weakening two positions. Not good.

We are in a lot better shape at OG and C. No worries at either position in terms of numbers.

Webster is 6 1.5, 320 pounds. His measureables are not great. 5.95 40. 20' vertical. 16 reps with the benchpress. I like his aggressiveness but he is really raw and at his height, he is never going to be an OT. His best bet is to become really strong and become a center I think. Right now, I think he will likely have to prep or go the JUCO route to get a scholarship. Anyway, I see him as a decent prospect at a position we don't have a great need for.

Officer has a prototype body and skill set to be an OG. That is where I see him playing in college. He would be our ideal OG recruit who could also play OT in a pinch.

That leaves room for 2 OTs. Curtis is a natural OT, looks well suited to that position. He would be a no-brainer if we are fortunate enough to land him. We need another athletic, 6'5 or taller kid to fill out the class.

I don't know, maybe we make a play on Tommy Hopkins and try and take him from UConn. But the staff saw him and opted not to offer. I don't think that happens.

I bet the 3rd OL recruit is a JUCO OT that no one has ever heard of. That is not what the staff wanted but I think they need someone who will be ready to play almost right away. Even Curtis is really light for OT and will need at least a year to get ready to play at the BCS level.

What a great, comprehensive response, Tom.

Question for you: does Foy have the versatility to play OT? He definitely has the size, not sure about the lateral mobility.

I like the depth of having Foy / Robinson inside, but if we look down the road and see a dearth of OTs and a glut of OGs, maybe it makes sense to proactively shift one of those guys to tackle to prepare for the future.

Also, appreciate the info on Webster--I didn't know anything about him, but got excited when I read the Flushing coach's comments about the kid being legit.