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Message: [QUOTE="ACCBballFan, post: 35104, member: 1278"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Joe Lunardi has said the depleted B12 is nation’s best for hoops.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][URL='http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=ncbexperts&action=upsell&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=ncbexperts[/url'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=ncbexperts&action=upsell&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=ncbexperts[/url[/COLOR][/U][/URL]][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So wouldn’t it be even stronger if it added UCONN, Louisville, Cincy and West Virginia and BYU in exchange for A&M and Missouri, with dilution from Rutgers, USF and TCU?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If they could call it B12 in football and BE in Basketball they would be on to something, very competitive with ACC in Bball, just a tad below: [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]1, UCONN- UNC [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]2. Kansas - Syracuse [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]3. Baylor - Duke a bit of a mismatch [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]4. Louisville - Pitt [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]5. Texas - FSU [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]6. Cincy - Miami [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]7. West VA - UVA [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]8. K-State - VA Tech [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]9. [BYU or Missouri] - Clemson [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]10. Rutgers - NC State [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]11. USF - Maryland historically gets the edge, maybe not so much this year [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]12. Okie St - Wake Forest [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]13. Oklahoma - GA Tech[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]14. Iowa State - Boston College, historical edge to BC but really down this year [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]15 Texas Tech - you pay the price in Bball to have 912 K TV share in football [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]16. TCU - have to wait and see what ACC comes up with for 15-16 [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]As the saying goes in national politics, it seems as Missouri goes, so goes the nation. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If Katz is right and B12 does lose Mizzou and then goes after BYU, UL and two other BE teams WV and soon to be BE or never was TCU, why not just do a full B12/BE merger and spin off the 8 Bball only schools? - personal opinion only, so no link. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I ask you if super conferences are inevitable, after B12 loses 3 of its top 5 markets in two years (Nebraska, A&M and now maybe Missouri), who is going to join them from P12, from B1G or from ACC, certainly no one from SEC. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So it seems after garnering BYU, UL, WV and TCU, not a lot of choices on eventual road to 16 any better than Rutgers 938K NY/NJ market, UCONN more for its Bball than football, Cincy for a little of both and USF more for its football than Bball. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]A B12/BE merger would also avoid litigation and set Cuse and Pitt free next year. As ACC did getting to 14 and a $20 M exit fee, a B12/BE merger would be doing by being the first to get all the way to eventual 16 to establish some temporary stability, especially if the 6 year grant or rights remains a criteria. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I know first impression would be what a mediocre football conference. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But look at this week’s rankings that may even be over reacting to USF and TCU losses. I will use ESPN’s but AP would be very similar [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]1. SEC is clearly #1 - has 7 in top 25 plus UGA and TN with votes [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]2. B12 has #3 Oklahoma, #6 Okie St, #11 Texas, #20 K- St, #25 Baylor plus Texas Tech with 25 votes for 6 in top 29. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]3. If you then add in #16 West VA, USF with 22 votes for honorary #31 plus TCU who used to be ranked, and Cincy, more than half of the merged B12/BE is ranked, or at least gets votes. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]4. By contrast B10 has 4 in top 25, plus Michigan St #26, Penn State with 9 votes and Ohio State will someday get healthy for 7 of 12 versus 9 of 16. I am not sure what two teams of 4 B1G could add would be ranked, maybe Notre Dame some day. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]5. ACC has 4 in top 25 plus Pitt got a vote in ESPN, got more votes as did UNC in other poll. Miami is good some years. Again best hope and it is long term for 1 of final 2 added to be a ranked teams is Notre Dame. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]6. P12 has just 3 in top 25 plus Washington and USC with votes, and UCLA some years. If SEC takes Missouri, and B12/BE lock in KU and K-St, probably looking at MWC teams to get to 16 someday. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Notre Dame may or may not remain independent and form a new Bball league with Nova, Marquette, G-town, St. John’s, Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul plus some of the Catholic Universities. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Who knows, Notre Dame may someday decide to join either B1G football or ACC football. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I realize UL @ 300K, Cincy @ 323K, TCU @ 371K are all small TV shares relative so Texas 2.25 million, Oklahoma 1.2 million, bigger only than Baylor 210K. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]They are still bigger than any of the CUSA schools in Texas SMU(164K), Rice (127K), Houston (100K), or any other CUSA schools except UCF (507K), So, Miss (362K) and ECU (348K), not exactly crown jewels. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Of course all this hinges on who SEC cherry picks for 15-16 even if A&M and Missouri are SEC 13-14. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So Missouri is the first domino to fall and then who is next overall?[/FONT][/COLOR][/url][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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