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Make sure to watch Shafers press conference

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It's almost as good as his intro one. I'm keeping on with the belief that he can do it in that there's some good introspection aka learning that I think is going to make him a better and successful coach here. Sure that's not the ideal of what one really wants in their coach (having to learn, grow and evolve), but this is where we are. Gotta believe it's gonna happen over the next year or two. Worth a watch..

http://syracusefan.com/threads/for-football.83387/#post-1206437
 
not buying any of the koolaid. the LAST thing i want to see is shafer bouncing back to HIS OLD SELF---that does not work---he needs to mature, stop with the cheer leading, demonstrate that he has taken command as a leader. i hope that his evolution to the head coaching ranks is accelerated, as he(we) need this dramatically. his move with mcd. was a good one that went public and shouldn't have, as many pointed out--not his fault--it is crunch time for him--i hope the ad has given him the means to accomplish it--given the means, i hope he has the maturity to do so.
 
not buying any of the koolaid. the LAST thing i want to see is shafer bouncing back to HIS OLD SELF---that does not work---he needs to mature, stop with the cheer leading, demonstrate that he has taken command as a leader. i hope that his evolution to the head coaching ranks is accelerated, as he(we) need this dramatically. his move with mcd. was a good one that went public and shouldn't have, as many pointed out--not his fault--it is crunch time for him--i hope the ad has given him the means to accomplish it--given the means, i hope he has the maturity to do so.
Seems to work with the kids in recruiting and playing hard for him.
 
tipphill said:
not buying any of the koolaid. the LAST thing i want to see is shafer bouncing back to HIS OLD SELF---that does not work---he needs to mature, stop with the cheer leading, demonstrate that he has taken command as a leader. i hope that his evolution to the head coaching ranks is accelerated, as he(we) need this dramatically. his move with mcd. was a good one that went public and shouldn't have, as many pointed out--not his fault--it is crunch time for him--i hope the ad has given him the means to accomplish it--given the means, i hope he has the maturity to do so.

You clearly didn't watch the presser.
 
It's almost as good as his intro one. I'm keeping on with the belief that he can do it in that there's some good introspection aka learning that I think is going to make him a better and successful coach here. Sure that's not the ideal of what one really wants in their coach (having to learn, grow and evolve), but this is where we are. Gotta believe it's gonna happen over the next year or two. Worth a watch..

http://syracusefan.com/threads/for-football.83387/#post-1206437

I didn't think it was incredible by any means. He was not in the heat of the moment and matter-a-fact. He seemed to have some lucidity and focus. And perspective.

But I didn't gain more confidence that gameplanning will get better. Or execution. Other than "next man up" might return to have more meaning because our #s will be better.

I am rooting for him. I'm just not swayed by a 16-minute press conference that our coaching is now better.
 
Lock the gates, brace yourself Missy, the old boy is back
 
I didn't think it was incredible by any means. He was not in the heat of the moment and matter-a-fact. He seemed to have some lucidity and focus. And perspective.

But I didn't gain more confidence that gameplanning will get better. Or execution. Other than "next man up" might return to have more meaning because our #s will be better.

I am rooting for him. I'm just not swayed by a 16-minute press conference that our coaching is now better.

At least we know they will be fighting the good fight.
 
A lot of good posts here recently about giving HCSS more time to mature or find his way. This season is a real pants load but we do get a coach who can shake that off and continue plugging away at recruiting and quality OC/ST work. There, that's a positive spin on a dirty diaper if there ever was one.
 
Interesting presser. I do like when he gives insight to some of their decision making (i.e. the Cordy portion).

I'm not meaning to nitpick, but one thing that stuck out to me is that he seemed to only focus on his recruits (as HC). Yeah, he had a comment about the seniors and missing them. But then it was all about the true freshmen and next year's class. Not much of a word about anyone in between.

He keeps a good perspective in tough times. Doesn't seem swallowed up by it (yet) like GRob was when you just wanted to beg the school to stop making him talk.

I hope he turns it around, and proves doubters like me wrong. But it's not a stock I would buy.
 
I didn't think it was incredible by any means. He was not in the heat of the moment and matter-a-fact. He seemed to have some lucidity and focus. And perspective.

But I didn't gain more confidence that gameplanning will get better. Or execution. Other than "next man up" might return to have more meaning because our #s will be better.

I am rooting for him. I'm just not swayed by a 16-minute press conference that our coaching is now better.
that's why I peppered it with mentions of keeping the faith to believe, hope, etc. that he'll grow going forward noting at the same time that this isn't the ideal one would want from the coach at your school. You may be right the the decisions and game planning may not improve.

But the end of this with him being open enough to question himself with the decision to punt may offer a sign of someone who can grow into the job re making better decisions that may lead to success. The evidence currently no doubt is to the contrary for example with the fake punt decision vs. Duke and then punting vs. Pitt so of course I understand the pessimism. That said this guy has the personality make up, the history and experience in the sport, and demonstrates some open minded introspective intellectual heft to at least keep open the possibility he can succeed here. This vs. the empty clueless platitudes sometimes seen in the past when we struggled.
 
Interesting presser. I do like when he gives insight to some of their decision making (i.e. the Cordy portion).

I'm not meaning to nitpick, but one thing that stuck out to me is that he seemed to only focus on his recruits (as HC). Yeah, he had a comment about the seniors and missing them. But then it was all about the true freshmen and next year's class. Not much of a word about anyone in between.

He keeps a good perspective in tough times. Doesn't seem swallowed up by it (yet) like GRob was when you just wanted to beg the school to stop making him talk.

I hope he turns it around, and proves doubters like me wrong. But it's not a stock I would buy.
wanting to believe doesn't mean I'd lay down $ on it...:oops:
 
At least we know they will be fighting the good fight.
have you ever had to work hard for anything in your life where you're taken down to the point where you have to question everything about what you're doing having to reach deep down relying on your faith including "fighting the good fight" mantra in that you're along side with others trying to achieve something meaningful, not only to those in that "fight" but important to other interested observers as well?

Something that shakes you to your soul with so many obstacles to overcome (injuries, recent history, location, weather, outsider negativity, etc. in this specific case), things that causes the night post Pitt that Shafer describes? Or we're you just entitled and spoon fed all along the way just taking the losers way out of taking pot shots from the sideline?

"It's not the critic that counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the actual arena, the man whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errors and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming, one who strives to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms; who knows the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so at the very least knows that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat"
 
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have you ever had to work hard for anything in your life where you're taken down to the point where you have to question everything about what you're doing having to reach deep down relying on your faith including "fighting the good fight" mantra in that you're along side with others trying to achieve something meaningful, not only to those in that "fight" but important to other interested observers as well?

Something that shakes you to your soul with so many obstacles to overcome (injuries, recent history, location, weather, etc. in this specific case), things that causes the night post Pitt that Shafer describes? Or we're you just entitled and spoon fed all along the way just taking the losers way out of taking pot shots from the sideline?

"It's not the critic that counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the actual arena, the man whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errors and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming, one who strives to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms; who knows the great devotions; who spends himself in a worth cause, who at best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so at the very least knows that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat"
Or in the words of Billy Madison ...

Whoa whoa whoa, Miss Lippy. The part of the story I don't like is that the little boy gave up looking for Happy after an hour. He didn't put posters up or anything, he just sat on the porch like a goon and waited. That little boy's gotta think 'You got a pet. You got a responsibility.' If your dog gets lost you don't look for an hour then call it quits. You get your ass out there and you find that -ing dog.
 
I didn't think it was incredible by any means. He was not in the heat of the moment and matter-a-fact. He seemed to have some lucidity and focus. And perspective.

But I didn't gain more confidence that gameplanning will get better. Or execution. Other than "next man up" might return to have more meaning because our #s will be better.

I am rooting for him. I'm just not swayed by a 16-minute press conference that our coaching is now better.
I'm rooting for him also, but too much "outside in" talk and understatement "...our offense has been struggling a bit". Maybe he has to do that to keep things together, but they are on the clock.

They need to do some things differently, or the results are not going to be different. It's not "maybe" I'd rethink that punt. Need to see some real changes, not rhetoric. Start with small changes and build, e.g. stop or reduce the length of the Fort Drum excursion, get the punt return team out of disaster mode, etc.
 
have you ever had to work hard for anything in your life where you're taken down to the point where you have to question everything about what you're doing having to reach deep down relying on your faith including "fighting the good fight" mantra in that you're along side with others trying to achieve something meaningful, not only to those in that "fight" but important to other interested observers as well?

Yes, and I never got paid $500K to do it. Usually I was unemployed with two ailing parents and a spouse sick of me being unemployed.

Something that shakes you to your soul with so many obstacles to overcome (injuries, recent history, location, weather, outsider negativity, etc. in this specific case), things that causes the night post Pitt that Shafer describes? Or we're you just entitled and spoon fed all along the way just taking the losers way out of taking pot shots from the sideline?

'Losers way'? Potshots from the sideline? What are we supposed to do? Suit up? Not sure the coach wants a 43 year old, pot-bellied, but 6'6" and decent hands, former tight end in his rotation.

Green bananas. I'm sick of being motivated by pressers. He can coach a D. He has not proven that he can field a successful offense. Inconsistent specials. He needs all 3, and recruiting. He's got about 3/4ths of next year to prove something. Pretty psyched that he's still landing recruits. That Oregon QB looks decent. Won't be sold until I see it.
 
I think if you support the program by buying tickets and attending games, you are invested in the program and have every right to criticize and priase. I read with interest those who disagree with me as well as those who do as it is one of the ways to learn. But I put those whose posts are filled with ad hominem attacks and excessive hyperbole on ignore. (Wonderful thing ignore button.)

A season like this brings back very bad memories and every questionable move by the HC, which would have a shelf life of a day in normal times, defaults to the spotlight for days and days in a 1,000 post thread.

We will see what happens in the spring. I myself, am planning on attending the spring game for the first time with hopes that all these new recruits will give me hope. I look forward to hearing all opinions after a winter of no football. I have the same disease as the rest of you - I am a fan.
 
I'm rooting for him also, but too much "outside in" talk and understatement "...our offense has been struggling a bit". Maybe he has to do that to keep things together, but they are on the clock.

They need to do some things differently, or the results are not going to be different. It's not "maybe" I'd rethink that punt. Need to see some real changes, not rhetoric. Start with small changes and build, e.g. stop or reduce the length of the Fort Drum excursion, get the punt return team out of disaster mode, etc.

It's funny...why do people always turn to the Ft Drum excursion as being an issue? Their practice and film/study schedule is the same as if it were here on campus. What do you think would be different about that. The only difference is their "off time" they spend with the troops learning and doing team building activities.

I find it funny how people turn to the most ridiculous things as an issue when things don't go the way they are planned. Very rarely do things always go as planned.
 
I think if you support the program by buying tickets and attending games, you are invested in the program and have every right to criticize and priase. I read with interest those who disagree with me as well as those who do as it is one of the ways to learn. But I put those whose posts are filled with ad hominem attacks and excessive hyperbole on ignore. (Wonderful thing ignore button.)

A season like this brings back very bad memories and every questionable move by the HC, which would have a shelf life of a day in normal times, defaults to the spotlight for days and days in a 1,000 post thread.

We will see what happens in the spring. I myself, am planning on attending the spring game for the first time with hopes that all these new recruits will give me hope. I look forward to hearing all opinions after a winter of no football. I have the same disease as the rest of you - I am a fan.

First spring game? I would have thought you were a regular at them. See you there.

They did a better job this season with it than previous years but they could do a whole lot better job and advertise it and make it an event.
 
First spring game? I would have thought you were a regular at them. See you there.

They did a better job this season with it than previous years but they could do a whole lot better job and advertise it and make it an event.
Being 70o miles away and a workaholic has gotten in the way. Now, that we are delegating more to others, we are taking more time for ourselves. Looking forward to all the away game tailgates, spring game and maybe fanfest. Going to cost me a lot of shoe money.
 

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