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Message: [QUOTE="jr4750, post: 1058706, member: 117"] In regards ot whether he was a Marrone or Shafer guy, I specifically remember hearing Shaf talk about how hard it was to work for months recruiting someone and then have them jump at the last minute. How you get so close to a kid and then someone tells them something at the 11th hour and they bolt. He was absolutely hurt by it, and I think he was every bit a HCSS as he was a HCDM kid. Be interesting to see if there is any acceptance of apologies. [/QUOTE]