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[QUOTE="OttoinGrotto, post: 4979171, member: 297"]
This gets bandied about and I need some convincing that this isn't just a board trope, because a couple of things don't line up.

On one hand, folks seem pretty quick to acknowledge that the team a) would be less talented without Judah and b) would have a worse record without him.

Yet somehow, even though we're better with Judah, he somehow doesn't make his teammates better? Like his individual talent is so overwhelming that it leads to better results in terms of record, but his inability to elevate his teammates holds the record back?

What exactly does Judah "making his teammates better" look like? Does it look like the team suddenly collectively rebounding better? Does it look like magically one of our guys becoming a viable center? Is the reason why Taylor can't make a basket and poses zero threat offensively because of something Judah does?

The guy is 3rd in the ACC in assists - would he need to lead the conference in assists in order to be sufficiently making his teammates better? I absolutely concede that Judah has made some bad decisions late, but I also think Red lets him gas out a lot of games for whatever reason (Starling too) and that probably doesn't help with the decision making or sense he needs to do more than he should.

Judah hasn't come back and been the dominant force we hoped but my goodness the standard he's judged by sure seems arbitrary.
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