many reasons why flash shouldnt be at qb this year

[jr4750]

Explain what you mean by "ridic" arm.

Does that mean he has a bad arm, or inaccurate arm or does it mean that he has a great arm?

I don't get it.

My guess... Ridic short for ridiculous meaning very good

 

[boog7]

Explain what you mean by "ridic" arm.

means "ridiculous" arm; great arm. it's a compliment.

If you look at Hunt's junior film on youtube, you'll see a lot of nice completions: deep balls, accurate passes on the run, and balls thrown into coverage w/ some zip. His senior film displays more of his running ability and athleticism, much like Broyld's senior film. But AB's film didn't impress me much w/ his passing ability. Obviously that can improve but that's why I 'm not sure if he'll ever be a full-time QB; doesn't look like much of a passer whereas Hunt does.

But AB could and should be a helluva playmaker b/c he can certainly tote the rock.

 

[CIL]

Hunt is a great athlete, but we can't forget that SU was the only school to offer him. People need to temper their expectations with Terrell being the answer in 2013 at QB. He has never faced D-1 competition and played in one of the worst football leagues in the nation in the PSAL. I'd also question his decision making based on his recent off the field trouble.

That being said, he is a great athlete so he will see the field one way or another. Whether he's a QB or not, remains to be seen.

In full disclosure, Hunt had a few programs come to him after he committed to Syracuse, but he said thanks but no thanks. There were mid tier BCS schools.

 

[Rocco]

Explain what you mean by "ridic" arm.

Does that mean he has a bad arm, or inaccurate arm or does it mean that he has a great arm?

I don't get it.

Ha sorry. Ridic as in great arm.

 

[Rocco]

Hunt is a great athlete, but we can't forget that SU was the only school to offer him. People need to temper their expectations with Terrell being the answer in 2013 at QB. He has never faced D-1 competition and played in one of the worst football leagues in the nation in the PSAL. I'd also question his decision making based on his recent off the field trouble.

That being said, he is a great athlete so he will see the field one way or another. Whether he's a QB or not, remains to be seen.

Agree with you as far as tempering expectations. I do think he is the answer at QB, and his arm and feet are there. His mentality is another thing.

 

[Cuseregular]

Just from what I've heard through the grapevine. Staff loves what Broyld can do in open spaces, however there is serious doubt that he will ever be able to throw the ball well enough to play QB at the college level.

sure maybe this year at this point and time. But what's wrong with people, do they not think he'll grow and mature and maybe improve like every other young college QB in the country in the throwing and decision making dept? Maybe he'll be another Tanehill. I remember them saying the same thing about a young Don McPhereson. For so many to write him off is ridiculous. Don't get it.

 

[Cuseregular]

Hunt is a great athlete, but we can't forget that SU was the only school to offer him. People need to temper their expectations with Terrell being the answer in 2013 at QB. He has never faced D-1 competition and played in one of the worst football leagues in the nation in the PSAL. I'd also question his decision making based on his recent off the field trouble.

That being said, he is a great athlete so he will see the field one way or another. Whether he's a QB or not, remains to be seen.

He's going to be our next Kevin Johnson.

 

[RF2044]

sure maybe this year at this point and time. But what's wrong with people, do they not think he'll grow and mature and maybe improve like every other young college QB in the country in the throwing and decision making dept? Maybe he'll be another Tanehill. I remember them saying the same thing about a young Don McPhereson. For so many to write him off is ridiculous. Don't get it.

Take your own advice, and don't write off Terrell Hunt prematurely.

 

[Cuseregular]

But isn't that exactly what you're doing with Terrell Hunt?

???????????? Not me man. Haven't said a word about him. Haven't seen him in person unlike AB. So I have no idea and no idea what you're talking about. To me he's the great mystery.

 

[RF2044]

???????????? Not me man. Haven't said a word about him. Haven't seen him in person unlike AB. So I have no idea and no idea what you're talking about. To me he's the great mystery.

Haven't said a word about him? Two posts above, you declared him to be the next Kevin Johnson --presumably meaning that he's going to come in second for the race to be our next QB. Don't write him off prematurely--that's all I'm saying.

 

[cusestudent]

sure maybe this year at this point and time. But what's wrong with people, do they not think he'll grow and mature and maybe improve like every other young college QB in the country in the throwing and decision making dept? Maybe he'll be another Tanehill. I remember them saying the same thing about a young Don McPhereson. For so many to write him off is ridiculous. Don't get it.

The issue with Broyld is that he is as close to a complete project as it gets when it comes to throwing. There is no reason to not utilize out of the backfield or the slot and then do nothing with Hunt, who is much more advanced in his passing abilities at this stage. There was A LOT of talk at the end of the season from the guys on the team that Hunt would be the one to take over after Nassib. I see it as Hunt throwing to Broyld not the other way around.

 

[rrlbees]

Agree with you as far as tempering expectations. I do think he is the answer at QB, and his arm and feet are there. His mentality is another thing.

i too think the expectations need to be tempered a bit too, but i also think hunt will be the guy next year. this spring has hurt him a lot in his development, hopefully he can catch up. i agree with deep that we may look at and even take a juco but i would hope it would be more of an insurance policy than anything.

 

[tipphill]

i do not like the nickname flash

 

[sutomcat]

First of all Nassib is the better qb and gives us the best chance to win.
Nassib and Flash are both playmakers so lets keep two of them on the field cant do that if Flash is at QB
No grasp of the O
Next year who knows. If Hunt is the player everyone says i would go with him at QB and Keep Flash in his current multiple role

I agree that Nassib is by far the best QB on the team. He is the starter and has to play.

But the offense we have been running has been a complete failure. Given the talent we are currently able to get, I don't see us being consistently successful running an NFL style offense. It hasn't happened so far, it won't happen this year and it won't happen in the ACC either.

The problem is that it is too easy to defend. We have a QB who is not a running threat, who is incapable of beating anyone one on one in the open field, by outrunning or overpowering them. We have a FB who plays regularly who similarly, is not a threat to the defense, can't beat anyone one on one in the open field and is, in many ways, dead weight. We have a TE, often 2 TEs, who similarly, can't beat anyone one on one, and post no threat to the defense. Last year, we had a RB who couldn't beat anyone one on one as well. Lemon and Graham were the only guys who could consistently get open, and Graham's bad hands, poor route running and injuries prevented him from being much of a factor.

The 5 OL are OL. Nothing changes there. I want to see the other 6 players on the field all be playmakers, all be fast, all strong, all capable of either outrunning or overpowering LBs and DBs. If we can get the talent level and the scheme set up so we can do this, we will score a lot more points and be a lot more successful on offense than we have been.

In a perfect world, we see Hunt emerge as a true dual threat QB, Broyld ends up at TE, where we have an appalling lack of athletic ability and speed, backed up by Stevens. We have Lemon, Sales and one of Kobena/Flemming/Foster/West/Hunt/Cornelius other there at WR most plays (3 WR set). And we have 3 or 4 RBs out there, all capable of beating LBs in the open field. I have great respect for Ant Bailey and what he was able to do with what he was given to work with, but he couldn't beat LBs or even DBs one on one and this killed us last year. I think Jerome Smith, PTG and Morris can all do this. I think AAM can too if he is able to get his weight under control.

My biggest hope for 2012 is that Marrone ditches the whole concept of the big power FB and the 2 blocking TEs that are not threats catching the ball, and goes to a scheme that focuses more on stretching the field and forcing the defense to make tackles in the open field than on simply overpowering them or passing with only 2 or 3 options to throw to.

I have my doubts over whether DM is prepared to do this. He seems pretty attached to what he has been doing. At least he is recruiting dual threat QBs now and has talked about the need to have a QB who can makes plays with his feet.

I think the best thing we can realistically hope for is for DM to do something similar to what he did his first season here. Run the normal offense with the normal starting QB and bring in a different QB running a much different offense for a few snaps here and there to force defenses to prepare for and deal with 2 completely different schemes.

Run the 'normal' offense with Nassib (though hopefully with more WRs, less TEs, more playmakers, less blocking specialists), and bring in a dual threat QB a few snaps here and there to run an offense that uses more of the field, generates more open space and utilizes more playmakes than we have been using in recent years.

That would help, I hope, address some of the issues the base offense has and would position the program well for a change to the new scheme in 2013.

Having Hunt sit out the spring football practices might end up having major long term implications for the program. The easy thing to do would have been to slap Terrell on the wrist for making the error in judgement and let him play. With Terrell having no parents, DM is probably more of a father figure to him than anyone else he has in his life. I am disappointed Hunt missed spring ball but impressed DM was willing to risk so much to do what he considers to be the right thing.

Let's hope it will works out in the end.

 

[shizzah]

He's going to be our next Kevin Johnson.

Agree somewhat, but I think Broyld will be our Kevin Johnson (albeit as a TE) to Hunt's McNabb.

 

[tipphill]

just a question--why is everyone high on west???what has he shown--so far/ aam as well??

 

[kingottoiii]

But the offense we have been running has been a complete failure. Given the talent we are currently able to get, I don't see us being consistently successful running an NFL style offense. It hasn't happened so far, it won't happen this year and it won't happen in the ACC either.

The problem is that it is too easy to defend.

Good post. Maybe we do what the Jets are this year. We have Nassib (Sanchez) and then Hunt/Broyld (Tebow). That would be a welcome sight. I don't think we can keep going the direction we have been and been a consistent Bowl team.