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Message: [QUOTE="007, post: 3695895, member: 393"] Your long, incessant debates to "prove" your opinion about Marrone remind me of the long incessant debates you had with many us to prove that Scott Shafer was a good HC, didn't deserve to be fired, and was the "reason" behind why Marrone did as well as he did when SS was the DC. Marrone out coached and out schemed many of the teams on the schedule while pulling the team out of the abyss of losing that was the Robinson Era. So much so, that it was obvious to those that saw past the record to realize the actual [B]coaching[/B] and leadership taking place on the field and behind the scenes. This is why the NFL came calling. This is why why he took the Bills to their first winning season in 10(?) years, this is why he was offered a 2nd NFL HC position even after quitting the Bills, and this is why he took the Jags to within a few plays of making the SB. The only thing that is "all there" is your anti-Marrone biases [/QUOTE]