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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeDW, post: 1240488, member: 2458"] If they're still 9-7 in 2016 and that's where this tops out, I could agree with that thinking. 9-7 in year two seems good for what could've been realistically hoped for. It would've been an absolute dream season to do better than that when EJ Manuel/Kyle Orton are your QB's, your best WR is a rookie, and your most talented RB misses most of the season and your running game relies on an old beat up Jackson and some guy named Boobie Dixon. They need more talent on the offensive side. Watkins is a future star. Woods is a nice piece. They aren't better on paper than the other 9-7 teams or the Ravens, Bengals, or Steelers. [/QUOTE]