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Message: [QUOTE="anomander, post: 1241007, member: 2766"] I don't really give either a pass. Injuries are part of football. But just for discussion sake I would be more willing to give Marrone a pass with the injuries because I still don't believe he was working with a full roster at the time. The year before he had just cut people, and were still very young, and inexperienced in several of the positions that were injured. We really had no depth in year 2 of the massive rebuild project. And yes he did have Sophomore Ryan Nassib, who many people were ready to run out of town that year. Was he that much better then Hunt, or Long? People were ready to run Hunt out of town this year, but now all a sudden he's back to the savior? I've always been a big fan of Hunt and feel he has been treated unfairly, especially after the AJ love affair following the FSU game where FSU played the most basic defensive game plan I have seen. People keep on wanting to say AJ was the 4th string qb, but in reality he was the 2nd string qb. He was listed deeper on the depth chart because the plans were for him to redshirt. As soon as Hunt went down for the year the plan all along was for AJ to finish out the season. Anyways I was basically just arguing the point that Marrone had an average career at Syracuse even though he dealt with the same exact issues everyone was so willing to give Shafer a pass on this year. One thing Marrone did have going for him in 2011 was a successful season. He showed that he could field a competitive team on the field before the injury bug got him. 5-2 with a big win vs WVU in year 2 of that rebuild was practically a miracle. I am still waiting on Shafer's signature win. Hopefully we can get one next season. I also agree with you that I think it is easier bringing a program from the abyss to respectability, then it is from average to great. As you said there are too many factors that can put a cap on a programs success. We're a program fighting many built-in disadvantages, be it recruiting territory, inability/unwillingness to invest in coaching staff, facilities/poor fanbase, etc etc you get my point. I said it yesterday, but i'll say it again...at least Duke should give us hope. [/QUOTE]

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