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Message: [QUOTE="Rocco, post: 706785, member: 51"] Before changes being made? Shafer isn't going anywhere even if he wins 2 games. Wait things out as long? He hasn't even coached a game yet. The players and administration really like Shafer and are buying into his vision. Firing him after a season is just plain silly. The players would not be happy. I think a bowl game is a minimum, but more importantly, we need to play hard against Clemson, FSU, PSU and Northwestern. Those are the teams we are recruiting against for the big name players, so we need to be competitive and show kids we can play with the big boys. [/QUOTE]