Cusefan0307
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You are not winning with freshmen. One school(Duke) can. If Red wants to save his job he needs talent in this years portal.
Morbidly curious who will announce first
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Agree not winning with just Frosh. We need to use the portal to have a solid squad. But that won’t get you to the Sweet 16 consistently. You need elite talent. There is only one place we can get that.
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To kick JJ to the curb is asking for another Mintz to Carlos situation, even though JJ was much worse than Mintz as the lead guard last season. I really can't stand how casual people are with thinking the portal will solve all our problems. It is a massive gamble to rely on getting in a competition with literally every other school for a small group of desired guys. If you do not have any continuity of any kind, and just want to replace massive amounts of your roster with portal adds, you will not improve unless you have preposterous money bags and a roster that portal guys would want to join. Last year we were somewhat close to being a tournament team with a first year coach, this year we were well below .500 with a coach who has shown no improvement in year 2. That matters. It costs money to make up for that. It is also likely there will be less portal options this offseason compared to last year.
We simply have to accept the reality of that situation. We cannot expect us to land a guy better than JJ, while also grabbing a new and improved Lamkin Davis Taylor Moore Carlos McLeod Bell etc. That is impossible in our current situation! Unless JJ has ridiculous money demands, or Melo comes through in an insane way with the bag, if he wants to stay we have to keep him, period. Otherwise don't be surprised when we drop a major bag on someone who can't create offense 1v1 against the toughest competition.
We simply have to accept the reality of that situation. We cannot expect us to land a guy better than JJ, while also grabbing a new and improved Lamkin Davis Taylor Moore Carlos McLeod Bell etc. That is impossible in our current situation! Unless JJ has ridiculous money demands, or Melo comes through in an insane way with the bag, if he wants to stay we have to keep him, period. Otherwise don't be surprised when we drop a major bag on someone who can't create offense 1v1 against the toughest competition.
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The portal should be used to supplement your foundation and fill in the holes from year to year. That foundation needs to be built with freshman classes over the years. The problem Red has and what we face now is we do not have a solid foundation to build on. So we have to replace an entire starting lineup via the portal but replacing the entire starting lineup via the portal isn't going to be a long term recipe for success year after year either. It will be important for programs especially a program like ours to find the balance.
If Red was a brand new coach this would be easier you would target talented Sophomores like Freeman who didn't get playing time at other places and bring them in and build your talent up but Red has to win now so he can't do that. So that will be the job of the next coach if Red can't get the job done next year.
If Red was a brand new coach this would be easier you would target talented Sophomores like Freeman who didn't get playing time at other places and bring them in and build your talent up but Red has to win now so he can't do that. So that will be the job of the next coach if Red can't get the job done next year.
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Would rather keep Moore. Higher upside.
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What’s that got to do with our guys?
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High school recruiting in basketball is pointless unless you’re after a top 10 recruit. Pitino has it right with the Johnnies
They can announce all they want. From the school side we need to know where we need to backfill and not sit around to wait for decisions and moving targets.
We need to go out and hit the portal for good players and not assume so and so will be back or so and so is still deciding or negotiating on multiple fronts. The best we should do is to give a player a courtesy "right of refusal". If you are coming back for sure, these are the terms and sign here. If you are undecided, want to test portal water or go pro and need time, fine, we will go find someone, when we are ready to commit to that player, we give you a chance, 24 hours, to decide if you want to hold your spot by signing, if not, your spot and associated NIL will be allocated away from you. I think that is fair.
Once signed no more negotiating and backtracking without penalty.
Say you signed a NIL agreement with XYZ car dealer for 500K, if you change your mind and go to another school you should suffer some financial consequences for backing out.
There is no sense in deciding to recruit from HS or portal as your primary means to fill out your roster. You need to do both and land quality talent wherever you can get them, the right coach will develop and get the team to gel base on the team's makeup.
What we don't want us to be the feeder to the higher tier programs by developing raw talent and losing them.
Right now we have no danger in that we don't seem to be developing good players, our players are all one dimensional with glaring deficiencies.
Right now we have no danger in that we don't seem to be developing good players, our players are all one dimensional with glaring deficiencies.
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What if competing programs are not requiring the same stipulations and backout penalties?
I mean it sounds like great hardball until the players lawyer says "Programs X, Y, and Z don't have these stringent stipulations and backout penalties and are offering similar funding."
Do you stick to your guns and move on to player B on the list?
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Addition by subtraction.
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Honestly, I was expecting some runners by now as well.
Than you need to make a decision whether that player is special enough to wait. Very few are.
If they are just tire kicking, and say several others are offering similar funding with no restrictions and can back out when there is a higher bid, well it's a two way street isn't it?
If they are considering multiple schools, and they are similar funding levels and they can't decide, ask what will it take for them to decide. An additional 100k? 250k? What? What is the decision process, some are just going to sit around for the highest bid at the last moment, may have to let those go. Tell them to call you when they are ready to commit.
If it's a matter of willing to sign for an addition $X, than decide to secure that money or not to get that player.
On the flip side, a school that lets you back out on a higher offer carries additional risks, they are also as likely to be recruiting other players entering the portal at a later time or backing out from other deals and turn around to tell the first player that he is no longer needed because they found someone better and good luck.
It's a matter of finding good fits from both sides. At some point a decision has to be made to wait or not. It's the same as in real estate transactions you make an offer to s property saying it's your "best offer", and seller comes back saying there are multiple offers and asking for "best and final", it's up to you to decide if you want to up your best offer to a newer best offer.
I am not sure cuse is a destination seeing we have been not competitive for so long and Red is seemingly a lame duck this year.
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Letting Starling go and expecting things to get better is lunacy - we have no PG and we need a defensive minded center - focus on that - then pray Freeman returns and we might be decent next year
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I'd argue unless it's a Flagg level talent that can be Conf POY level, it's pointless. Look at Top 10 from last year.
Rutgers 2x
Baylor
Texas
Syracuse!
UNC
Maryland
Uconn
Miami
A bunch of bad teams, non tourney teams, or 8 seeds (and Maryland, I guess)
It's just not the way to win in 2025
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Gotta have a place to run to.
Well, Louisville coming off two absolutely pathetic years much worse than ours managed a complete overhaul. I know they had more nil than us, but we’re supposed to be in better shape this year.
I think the consensus is that if it comes to money and choices that the money goes to Donnie at the expense of JJ.
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No it's not, if you have a plan. The only thing Starling does above average is drive to the hoop. Awful defender, terrible three point shooter and bad efficiency.
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To be fair, JJ was a highly rated McD all-American and first-team all-ACC freshman. That's at least as "elite" of a pedigree as Kyle had coming in. It just didn't work out with JJ (and injuries may have at least something to do with that).
Why don't we have a chance?
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