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Message: [QUOTE="Dave, post: 2208559, member: 1226"] I don't think I said the record is irrelevant. What I said is that the question of impact on a program can't be quantified by wins and losses in that fashion. Bing was unbelievable. Pearl arrival coincided happily with the explosion in TV coverage and was intertwined with the supernova that was the 80's Big East. Your work is enviable and very much appreciated. Wins and losses may very well be the best gauge of a players impact. Obviously there is no right or wrong answer. I wasn't there for Bing, and I was for Pearl. What I felt is that Pearl elevated the program with his choosing us, and yes, with his forearm shiver of Ewing, to where we felt we stood toe to toe with the giants. Our program has felt that way ever since. That feeling is how I would choose to gauge his impact. There are a lot of great compelling choices on here. Yours is one. This is mine. [/QUOTE]