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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 1883807, member: 622"] Some of you guys need to take a step back from the ledge. Seriously. Week three is in the books. Week three in a new defense. Defense is generally easier to pick up than offense. Give the kids a break! HCDB believes the kids on the field are better options than the ones not on the field, and, yes some are in due to injuries but that is part of the game. Get over it. The kids lost to a top five team that has bumped a top five team, a preseason favorite for the title game! The played a very good FCS team and won, in their first game in the new system! The same defense many on here are decrying held Louisville equally as good as did FSU, the preseason pic for the NC game! Many complain about the recruiting. There are fair points, there are less than fair points, regardless, it is time to move on. HCDB will get his players in time. We have the players we have and HCDB is using as he best sees fit. Complaining about Shafer and his recruiting does no one any bit of good. You have made a point, move on! HCDB wants his version of the Tampa 2 and the kids we have were not recruited for the Tampa 2, you made your point, Move On! We don't have the talent that Alabama, Texas, FSU, Louisville, tOSU, Michigan, ND, OU have; you made your point, MOVE ON! Every kid on this team chose to play for Syracuse. You should be thankful they did! Every kid has bought into HCDB's system, you should be thankful. Every kid is showing improvement, you should be thankful. We play UConn Saturday and several on here believe we will be crushed, expecting 20-40 point loss. OK, I may have exaggerated, but get over yourselves. UConn is not to be mistaken with a world beater. Give it up already. Whether Syracuse wins or loses, the big picture is that HCDB has these kids learning a new system and they are improving. That said, I expect a win. It may not be pretty, but anyone that wants to favorably compare what UConn has played versus what Syracuse has played is really messed up! Colgate could be 3-0 with the UCOnn slate, I have little doubt Syracuse would be 3-0 against UConn's slate. Can Syracuse lose? Yes, they could. The Vegas line is set to get betting action so the house does not lose, they needed to entice Syracuse bettors to put down money, so what! Vegas changes the line as necessary to get bets, not because they really believe Syracuse will win or lose, to entice gamblers to place money on the game, nothing more. Tearing down kids because you are mad at Shafer or because you believe HCDB sold you a bill of goods makes no sense. You would be better off stating your frustrations and them moving on and building up the team. That is what real coaches do. That is what leaders do. That is what parents do. That is what adults do. I realize that as fans we sometimes lose sight of the fact that we are adults, parents, leaders, etc., but when we do, we still have an obligation to regain that sight. Please stop complaining about these kids, they are playing their hearts out while learning a new system for which they were not directly recruited. I will take every kid in Orange right now over any moron that was lured to PedState. I would take any of these kids over a Rutgers player, recruited via phony comments about other schools. These kids chose to play for the school I could only dream of attending. Syracuse will not pull their scholarships to draw in a better recruit (can you say anyone team in the SEC?), Syracuse keeps its word to the players. Sorry for being long winded and preachy. Stepping of my soap box. [/QUOTE]

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