4evaOrange
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Bummed but not surprised. Had high hopes when he committed.
Couldn't they have moved him to safety, if the issue was just that he couldn't put on enough weight? The kid hit like a truck.
*1000I'm unhappy that more than once now what is suppose to be information in a secure portal, only available to schools and players, is being announced before the player has the opportunity to make it public.
The NCAA needs to put something in place to monitor who is looking and if they have a legitimate reason to view that information in the portal.You’re not going to stop this sort of thing from being reported — new media, old media, whatever.
Those reporting it have a competition motive.
Those leaking it probably do also.
I don’t think Fagan was part of that, was he?I imagine trill is annoyed at losing apart of the #jackboys crew
Not surprising. He struggled finding the field, even on special teams. He just couldn’t find a position here - struggled to put on weight in order to play lb, and isn’t a safety.
He was our first big recruiting “win” under the Babers regime, and I think we feel disappointed by the fact he is leaving - and we shouldn’t, because bigger and better fits for the system have arrived.
Wish him the best of luck - I could see him making an impact at an FAU / FIU school.
Not surprising. He struggled finding the field, even on special teams. He just couldn’t find a position here - struggled to put on weight in order to play lb, and isn’t a safety.
He was our first big recruiting “win” under the Babers regime, and I think we feel disappointed by the fact he is leaving - and we shouldn’t, because bigger and better fits for the system have arrived.
Wish him the best of luck - I could see him making an impact at an FAU / FIU school.
Will be interesting to see how it all pans out. I went back to the original recruiting thread to read up on him and it was interesting to say the least. The board loved him and he was anointed instant impact player status and determined to be a four year starter by some. Now 2 years later he's leaving allegedly due to lack of talent/development. An interesting situation for sure.
Respectfully, I don't think that is an accurate portrayal -- people were excited because of his offer list [which included LSU, Miami, and others]. It was an early indicator that Babers and staff would be able to compete with the big boys for talent.
But at the same time, there was concern expressed over him being undersized for a LB [I think he weighed ~190 pounds]. There was also widespread belief that he'd need to redshirt, using the extra year to pack on the weight / strength necessary to play LB. He was also taller than the LB incumbents we had at the time [Franklin / Bennett], so the hope was that he had the frame to "grow" into the role.
Nothing against Fagan whatsoever, I wish that it had worked out. But he didn't gain the size needed to play at this level, which is what prevented him from cracking the two-deep. Moving down to a lower level is probably the right move.
I didnt look back at his thread but Im sure its full with optimism. lol Its hard for a fan base that hasn't had much success not be excited about getting a kid with Bama and LSU offers. I think everyone lowred their expectations when he didn't crack the summer 2 deep. As fans you watch film, envision them in our scheme. and make a prediction of how well they will do. We can't predict their decision making, work ethic, study habits, mental toughness and heart.I was only commenting on the things that were posted in his recruitment thread which included the statements that he'd be a four-year starter, impact player, etc. He was touted at the time as being the top defensive recruit of the class and a future defensive leader. That's the majority of the comments in that thread. Its all still there.
Anyway, I just thought it was strange looking back to that board analysis that two years later he's no longer in the plan. Guess it just shows that prediction for success at the college level based upon high school performance is a real wild card and very difficult.
I wish him success no matter what and will be interested to see how it all plays out.
Yeah, I thought he would be a starter.I didnt look back at his thread but Im sure its full with optimism. lol Its hard for a fan base that hasn't had much success not be excited about getting a kid with Bama and LSU offers. I think everyone lowred their expectations when he didn't crack the summer 2 deep. As fans you watch film, envision them in our scheme. and make a prediction of how well they will do. We can't predict their decision making, work ethic, study habits, mental toughness and heart.
I didnt look back at his thread but Im sure its full with optimism. lol Its hard for a fan base that hasn't had much success not be excited about getting a kid with Bama and LSU offers. I think everyone lowred their expectations when he didn't crack the summer 2 deep. As fans you watch film, envision them in our scheme. and make a prediction of how well they will do. We can't predict their decision making, work ethic, study habits, mental toughness and heart.
Based on film. I figured he would be at starter at WLB by his sophomore year. I was hoping he would redshirt though.Yeah, I thought he would be a starter.
Cali would be proud of this postDidn’t see a thread on this. That’s a shame was thinking he’d play a big role over the next few years. Maybe the 2 4*’s we just brought in led to this decision? Either way I always wish the best for past, present or future Orangeman.
Yeah, had some high hopes for this kid, especially with the way some Miami fans reacted when we signed him. Was wondering what happened to him...Yeah I mean coming off 3-9, 4-8, 4-8 and adding a kid with true elite program SEC level offers - it's not surprising people were excited and had high expectations. Plus he was an early enrollee.