Nate Kingz Appreciation Thread

[Scooch]

A different coach would be using him far differently, that’s for sure.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Would so much rather see Kingz out there over JJ. Red is blinded by his loyalty

 

[AlphaCuse]

Starling needs to come off the bench . Kingz should be the two. He’s a shooter and Starling can’t shoot

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Starling needs to come off the bench . Kingz should be the two. He’s a shooter and Starling can’t shoot

We’re 1 game above .500 since JJ came back from injury. Correlation??

 

[AZOrange]

A different coach would be using him far differently, that’s for sure.

It’s like Red gets locked into patterns instead of improvising hot hand lineups

 

[RF2044]

It is indefensible that a perimeter challenged team went out and brought in a knock down shooter who was better than 40% from three last year, and we have relegated him to being the 7th option on offense, who only gets looks when other guys accidentally pass the ball his way or don't bog down trying to play 1-on-5 to get their own shot.

Poor coaching, no coherent offensive scheme.

 

[rocfan44]

Starling is committing highway robbery on the University. His production is not worth the NIL money at all.

 

[RyanCuse44]

Would so much rather see Kingz out there over JJ. Red is blinded by his loyalty

Stevie Wonder could do better.

 

[Bulldog04]

Don’t understand because at practice, they run sets for him to get open and get shots. Hence why everyone knows how good of a shooter he is. But that doesn’t make it to the game. Weird

 

[Bulldog04]

It’s like Red gets locked into patterns instead of improvising hot hand lineups

He’s too worried about making sure everyone gets playing time. Hes constantly looking for subs. It’s a bad habit

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Don’t understand because at practice, they run sets for him to get open and get shots. Hence why everyone knows how good of a shooter he is. But that doesn’t make it to the game. Weird

Three shots in 29 minutes. They don't even try to run him off the screen.

 

[Ghost]

Three shots in 29 minutes. They don't even try to run him off the screen.

Why would you do that when you can post up Soaure just outside the three point line! It's like free points!!!

 

[Newhouser]

He’s too worried about making sure everyone gets playing time. Hes constantly looking for subs. It’s a bad habit

This is a great point. He's definitely pressing to get people run. Can't coach that way.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

This is a great point. He's definitely pressing to get people run. Can't coach that way.

Souare played 12 minutes. Some of that was because Kyle was in some foul trouble in the 1st half and he didn't want Donnie playing the 5 at all. Once Donnie got going, he was a mismatch in the 2nd half playing at the 4.

Betsey played well. Kiyan had a few good moments. Sadiq was limited to 12 minutes due to Donnie. Nine guys total.

 

[Cuse99&01]

Starling is committing highway robbery on the University. His production is not worth the NIL money at all.

NIL money aside, his production is not worth the minutes he is being played

 

[newmexicuse]

Souare played 12 minutes. Some of that was because Kyle was in some foul trouble in the 1st half and he didn't want Donnie playing the 5 at all. Once Donnie got going, he was a mismatch in the 2nd half playing at the 4.

Betsey played well. Kiyan had a few good moments. Sadiq was limited to 12 minutes due to Donnie. Nine guys total.

Betsy - 8 points in 16 minutes, Kiyan - 7 points in 15 minutes. Four of the starters had 5 points or less. Why didnt Kiyan and Betsy get more run ????

Once Freeman shook off the rust he was awesome !!!

 

[FrancoPizza]

He’s too worried about making sure everyone gets playing time. Hes constantly looking for subs. It’s a bad habit

I’m guilty of that, too. But I’m just a coach for a Solvay Youth Center girls league.

 

[MSOrange]

He’s too worried about making sure everyone gets playing time. Hes constantly looking for subs. It’s a bad habit

I agree, I think that has a lot to do with what appears to be rather nonsensical substitution patterns,

 

[FrancoPizza]

I agree, I think that has a lot to do with what appears to be rather nonsensical substitution patterns,

 

[OttoinGrotto]

He’s too worried about making sure everyone gets playing time. Hes constantly looking for subs. It’s a bad habit

He needs to look for those subs to take some of JJ's minutes.

 

[Scooch]

I agree, I think that has a lot to do with what appears to be rather nonsensical substitution patterns,

Sometimes a coach is a reaction to the guy who preceded him. I've seen this happen twice with my Pats.

They hired Pete Carroll - the ultimate player's coach - to follow crusty disciplinarian Bill Parcells. Three decades later they hired affable, sunny Jerod Mayo to follow grumpy, jerk Bill Belichick.

Some of Red's tendencies seem to be a rebuke of Boeheim's approaches. Immediately replacing the zone with an ineffective man D. Shuffling through 9+ players instead of playing JB's typical strict 6.5 player rotation. The obsession with unity and culture when JB's teams were often a dysfunctional mess.

Not that any one thing Red is trying is bad. But if they're just reactions to the worst of JB then they're unlikely to work.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Great pickup and identification by Kline. Has been used better recently, but for most of the season that hasn’t been the case. We would be a better team had he been given more usage each game. That would have fixed half the backcourt problems.

 

[justgold315]

Great pickup and identification by Kline. Has been used better recently, but for most of the season that hasn’t been the case. We would be a better team had he been given more usage each game. That would have fixed half the backcourt problems.

I'd like to see the line up of Kyle, Freeman, Betsy, Kingz, and George/JJ/Anthony. At least three shooting threats and two strong rebounders.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Great pickup and identification by Kline. Has been used better recently, but for most of the season that hasn’t been the case. We would be a better team had he been given more usage each game. That would have fixed half the backcourt problems.

He would have really benefited from an actual pg that can get him open looks.

 

[phil77]

George/Kingz/Betsy/Freeman/Kyle and play through Donnie in the post and if double hit open shooters. JJ and White off the bench for change of pace energy guys would be a nice team. If we had a good coach that would easily easily easily be a tournament team. Like no question.