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[QUOTE="billsin01, post: 315395, member: 837"]
Quinn goes from being a guy that in two years completed ~50% of his passes for 26 TDs/25 INTs to a guy that over the next two seasons throws nearly 70 TDs/14INTs and completes ~63% because he matured? Nothing to do with system? Nothing to do with coaching? Mo Stovall in three years pre-Weis: 61 catches, ~1,000 yds, 7 TDs. One year with Weis: 69 catches, 1149 yards, 11 TDs. That's some major maturing. Jeff Samardzija couldn't seem to get on the field with good ol' Ty. Two years under weis: 155 catches, 2,065 yards, 27 TDs. I really, really hope PTG or Marcus Sales "mature" that much this year.

I won't argue with you on the talent point. I agree. As for the shoulda won more games, there's no answer to that argument so believe whatever you want.

Not the question we were debating. Having more talent is great -- I'm not sure we're going to be in that boat very often. But, regardless, we're talking about moving the ball. Talent absolutely plays a role but is simply not the only thing it comes down to (as you assert in the post I originally responded to).

So, if this team sets an all-time rushing record this year, you'd give that equal weight to a record of, say, most TD passes? You don't think offenses have changed dramatically since the 80s/early 90s? This seems really simple to me -- SU spent the better part of it's football history as a dramatically run-first offense. The last 10-15 years it has shifted to at least a 50-50 split. That means the passing yardage will be up whether you truly have a dynamic offense or not since you're simply throwing the ball more ... by a lot.
 
I mean, otherwise you're calling Greg Vaughan's 1998 season (50 HRs) better than any power season Hank Aaron ever produced.
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