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[QUOTE="orangenirvana, post: 315973, member: 156"]
Yes, ultimately it is on Marrone. Hackett is Marrone's choice, if he continues to fail and Marrone does nothing about it, then Marrone should be blamed for that.
 
I think if you cannot finish within the Top 100 in the nation in Year #3 going up against mediocre-at-best competition, then it's not really all that complicated - you're struggling.

This argument fits when we're talking about an offense that finished somewhere in the middle of FBS Division 1. But that's not what we're discussing here. We're talking about an offense that finished near the very bottom. There's no excuse for such a lack of production, especially in Year #3.

Shafer has already proven many times throughout his coaching career that he is a very capable defensive coordinator. 2011 was the exception for him, not the rule. Hackett has yet to show us anything in his career other than good connections, so he shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt like Shafer.

Both. Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
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