SWC75
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For the last several years I’ve been making monthly posts for baseball keeping track of who is leading each league in base production, (total batting bases +walks + steals) and run production, (runs scored + runs batted in minus home runs so they don’t get counted twice). I’ve also used those stats for my series on the history of the sport to identify the most historically productive players. I’m going to be starting a similar series for basketball soon and I thought I’d start doing monthly NBA posts using my “net points” formula: points + rebounds +assists + steals + blocks – missed field goals –missed free throws – turnovers – fouls. Since we don’t have two leagues, I’ll keep track of the top 25 players. I’ve also decided to break out the players averages per 48 minutes of play, (the length of an NBA game).
Players don’t actually average 48 minutes per game, (BasketballReference.com keeps track of averages per 36 minutes as that’s closer to what a star player will average). But they could play that much in a tight game. These numbers represent what they are capable of doing when their team really needs them to produce. The players are ranked based on total net points. The averages are just a breakdown of their individual skills. I do show the NP per 40 minutes at the end of each line but I’ll ranked them based on the total NP because that’s not a projection based on a rate of production..
Here is a breakdown of what I’ve typed in each case with LeBron James in October as an example: LeBron played 7 games and 259 minutes in those games, an average of 37.0 minutes per game (m). He scored 172 points (p), grabbed 52 rebounds (r ), passed for 60 assists (a), stole 7 balls (s) and blocked 8 shots (b). He attempted 116 field goals and made 68, so he missed 48 (mfg). He attempted 32 free throws and made 25, missing 7 (mft). He had 28 turnovers (to) and 11 personal fouls (pf). I add the positives and subtract the negatives to get 397 net points. I divide 48 by the 539 minutes and multiply each stat by the result. I come up with this:
LeBron James CLE 37.0m 31.9p 9.6r 11.1a 1.3s 1.5b 8.9mfg 1.3mft 5.2to 2.0pf 205NP (38.0)
AFTER MARCH
LeBron James CLE………….37.1m 35.6p 11.1r 11.8a 1.9s 1.2b 11.3mfg 2.2mft 5.4to 2.2pf 2379NP (40.5)
Anthony Davis NO…………36.4m 37.1p 14.6r 3.0a 1.9s 3.3b 11.9mfg 1.7mft 2.8to 2.8pf 2132NP (40.8)
G. Antetokounmopo MIL.37.0m 35.4p 13.0r 6.2a 1.9s 1.9b 11.3mfg 2.7mft 3.8to 4.0pf 1997NP (36.4)
Russell Westbrook OKC….36.3m 33.6p 12.8r 13.3a 2.4s 0.3b 15.3mfg 2.5mft 6.2to 3.3pf 1995NP (35.2)
Karl-Anthony Towns MIN 35.5m 28.7p 16.7r 3.2a 1.1s 2.0b 8.8mfg 1.0mft 2.7to 4.7pf 1964NP (34.6)
James Harden HOU……….35.5m 41.5p 7.3r 11.8a 2.5s 0.9b 15.2mfg 1.9mft 5.8to 3.2pf 1847NP (37.3)
Andre Drummond DET….33.5m 21.6p 22.9r 4.4a 2.1s 2.4b 7.7mfg 2.8mft 3.7to 4.6pf 1792NP (34.7)
Kevin Durant GS….…………34.3m 37.4p 9.5r 7.5a 1.0s 2.6b 12.0mfg 0.9mft 4.3to 2.8pf 1656NP (37.4)
Nikola Jokic DEN……………32.0m 26.8p 15.9r 9.0a 1.7s 1.2b 9.8mfg 0.9mft 4.2to 4.2pf 1627NP (35.4)
Damian Lillard POR……….36.6m 34.9p 6.0r 8.6a 1.4s 0.5b 14.2mfg 0.8mft 3.8to 2.2pf 1581NP (30.4)
Ben Simmons PHI………….34.1m 22.2p 11.3r 11.4a 2.4s 1.2b 8.1mfg 2.6mft 4.8to 3.7pf 1539NP (29.3)
DeAndre Jordan LAC …….31.9m 18.4p 23.2r 2.3a 0.8s 1.4b 4.0mfg 2.4mft 2.7to 4.0pf 1535NP (32.5)
LeMarcus Aldridge SA……33.3m 33.3p 12.0r 3.0a 0.7s 1.7b 12.7mfg 1.3mft 2.2to 3.2pf 1502NP (31.4)
Dwight Howard CHAR……30.6m 26.3p 19.3r 2.0a 0.9s 2.5b 7.9mfg 4.8mft 4.1to 5.0pf 1422NP (29.3)
Kemba Walker CHA……….34.7m 31.5p 4.4r 7.8a 1.7s 0.4b 13.8mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 1.8pf 1419NP (26.1)
DeMar DeRozan TOR……..34.1m 33.0p 5.5r 7.3a 1.5s 0.4b 13.6mfg 1.8mft 3.1to 2.6pf 1418NP (26.6)
Marc Gasol MEM……………33.3m 25.3p 11.8r 6.0a 1.0s 2.0b 12.0mfg 1.2mft 3.8to 3.7pf 1409NP (29.2)
Victor Oladipo IND…………34.2m 32.5p 7.4r 5.8a 3.2s 1.0b 13.4mfg 1.3mft 4.1to 3.2pf 1395NP (27.9)
Joel Embid PHI……………….30.3m 36.3p 17.3r 5.0a 1.0s 2.8b 13.7mfg 2.7mft 5.9to 5.2pf 1388NP (34.8)
Bradley Beal WAS…………..36.3m 30.1p 5.8r 6.0a 3.5s 2.5b 12.9mfg 1.2mft 3.5to 2.5pf 1378NP (24.0)
Clint Capella HOU……………27.6m 24.3p 19.0r 1.7a 1.3s 3.3b 5.6mfg 2.7mft 2.5to 4.5pf 1359NP (34.3)
Jrue HolidayNO……………….36.3m 25.2p 6.0r 7.7a 1.8s 1.0b 10.5mfg 0.8mft 3.5to 3.3pf 1344NP (23.7)
Enes Kantor NYK………………25.8m 26.2p 20.5r 2.8a 0.9s 1.0b 7.6mfg 0.7mft 3.2to 4.9pf 1330NP (34.9)
Kyle Lowry TOR……………..32.3m 24.6p 8.3r 10.2a 1.7s 0.3b 10.3mfg 0.7mft 3.4to 3.6pf 1309NP (27.0)
Lou Williams LAC……………32.8m 33.3p 3.8r 7.9a 1.6s 0.4b 14.0mfg 1.1mft 4.4to 2.0pf 1300NP (25.4)
Comment: The top 8 positons didn’t change at all- even in the order. Even the individual stats hardly changed. And they won’t change much by the end of the season, which is less than a week away as of this writing.
The number of centers in this listing is interesting. People talk at the center positon as if it’s antiquated and doesn’t matter that much anymore. 10 of the top 25 players in the league, (per net points) are centers. 4 are power forwards. None are small forwards, 6 are shooting guards and 5 are point guards.
Ex-SU Players
Carmelo Anthony OKC…….32.2m 24.3p 8.7r 1.9a 0.9s 1.0b 13.4mfg 0.9mft 1.9to 3.8pf 830NP (17.0)
Jerami Grant OKC……………20.4m 19.3p 9.4r 1.7a 0.9s 2.1b 6.4mfg 4.0mft 1.7to 4.6pf 538NP (16.6)
Wes Johnson LAC…………….20.6m 13.0p 7.1r 1.9a 2.5s 2.1b 7.1mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 4.7pf 370NP (12.5)
Dion Waiters MIA…………….30.6m 22.4p 4.0r 5.9a 1.2s 0.5b 12.9mfg 0.9mft 3.7to 3.2pf 255NP (13.3)
M Carter-Williams CHA….. 16.1m 13.7p 7.9r 6.7a 2.5s 1.3b 8.8mfg 0.9mft 3.0to 5.7pf 240NP (13.8)
Tyler Ennis LAL…………………11.0m 14.4p 6.3r 7.0a 1.8s 0.6b 8.9mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 5.7pf 135NP (12.6)
Malachi Richardson TOR….12.5m 12.9p 4.9r 1.9a 1.5s 0.1b 8.7mfg 0.7mft 1.5to 4.0pf 43NP (6.4)
Tyler Lydon DEN……………….Played 2 minutes in one game and had no other statistics.
If the playoffs started now, Oklahoma City, Miami and Toronto will be in the hunt. But Dion is out for the season. Malachi hasn’t played since 2/11. OKC has a lot of clearly better teams ahead of them in the West. The streak of no SU player playing in the NBA finals since 1980 seems likely to continue.
Players don’t actually average 48 minutes per game, (BasketballReference.com keeps track of averages per 36 minutes as that’s closer to what a star player will average). But they could play that much in a tight game. These numbers represent what they are capable of doing when their team really needs them to produce. The players are ranked based on total net points. The averages are just a breakdown of their individual skills. I do show the NP per 40 minutes at the end of each line but I’ll ranked them based on the total NP because that’s not a projection based on a rate of production..
Here is a breakdown of what I’ve typed in each case with LeBron James in October as an example: LeBron played 7 games and 259 minutes in those games, an average of 37.0 minutes per game (m). He scored 172 points (p), grabbed 52 rebounds (r ), passed for 60 assists (a), stole 7 balls (s) and blocked 8 shots (b). He attempted 116 field goals and made 68, so he missed 48 (mfg). He attempted 32 free throws and made 25, missing 7 (mft). He had 28 turnovers (to) and 11 personal fouls (pf). I add the positives and subtract the negatives to get 397 net points. I divide 48 by the 539 minutes and multiply each stat by the result. I come up with this:
LeBron James CLE 37.0m 31.9p 9.6r 11.1a 1.3s 1.5b 8.9mfg 1.3mft 5.2to 2.0pf 205NP (38.0)
AFTER MARCH
LeBron James CLE………….37.1m 35.6p 11.1r 11.8a 1.9s 1.2b 11.3mfg 2.2mft 5.4to 2.2pf 2379NP (40.5)
Anthony Davis NO…………36.4m 37.1p 14.6r 3.0a 1.9s 3.3b 11.9mfg 1.7mft 2.8to 2.8pf 2132NP (40.8)
G. Antetokounmopo MIL.37.0m 35.4p 13.0r 6.2a 1.9s 1.9b 11.3mfg 2.7mft 3.8to 4.0pf 1997NP (36.4)
Russell Westbrook OKC….36.3m 33.6p 12.8r 13.3a 2.4s 0.3b 15.3mfg 2.5mft 6.2to 3.3pf 1995NP (35.2)
Karl-Anthony Towns MIN 35.5m 28.7p 16.7r 3.2a 1.1s 2.0b 8.8mfg 1.0mft 2.7to 4.7pf 1964NP (34.6)
James Harden HOU……….35.5m 41.5p 7.3r 11.8a 2.5s 0.9b 15.2mfg 1.9mft 5.8to 3.2pf 1847NP (37.3)
Andre Drummond DET….33.5m 21.6p 22.9r 4.4a 2.1s 2.4b 7.7mfg 2.8mft 3.7to 4.6pf 1792NP (34.7)
Kevin Durant GS….…………34.3m 37.4p 9.5r 7.5a 1.0s 2.6b 12.0mfg 0.9mft 4.3to 2.8pf 1656NP (37.4)
Nikola Jokic DEN……………32.0m 26.8p 15.9r 9.0a 1.7s 1.2b 9.8mfg 0.9mft 4.2to 4.2pf 1627NP (35.4)
Damian Lillard POR……….36.6m 34.9p 6.0r 8.6a 1.4s 0.5b 14.2mfg 0.8mft 3.8to 2.2pf 1581NP (30.4)
Ben Simmons PHI………….34.1m 22.2p 11.3r 11.4a 2.4s 1.2b 8.1mfg 2.6mft 4.8to 3.7pf 1539NP (29.3)
DeAndre Jordan LAC …….31.9m 18.4p 23.2r 2.3a 0.8s 1.4b 4.0mfg 2.4mft 2.7to 4.0pf 1535NP (32.5)
LeMarcus Aldridge SA……33.3m 33.3p 12.0r 3.0a 0.7s 1.7b 12.7mfg 1.3mft 2.2to 3.2pf 1502NP (31.4)
Dwight Howard CHAR……30.6m 26.3p 19.3r 2.0a 0.9s 2.5b 7.9mfg 4.8mft 4.1to 5.0pf 1422NP (29.3)
Kemba Walker CHA……….34.7m 31.5p 4.4r 7.8a 1.7s 0.4b 13.8mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 1.8pf 1419NP (26.1)
DeMar DeRozan TOR……..34.1m 33.0p 5.5r 7.3a 1.5s 0.4b 13.6mfg 1.8mft 3.1to 2.6pf 1418NP (26.6)
Marc Gasol MEM……………33.3m 25.3p 11.8r 6.0a 1.0s 2.0b 12.0mfg 1.2mft 3.8to 3.7pf 1409NP (29.2)
Victor Oladipo IND…………34.2m 32.5p 7.4r 5.8a 3.2s 1.0b 13.4mfg 1.3mft 4.1to 3.2pf 1395NP (27.9)
Joel Embid PHI……………….30.3m 36.3p 17.3r 5.0a 1.0s 2.8b 13.7mfg 2.7mft 5.9to 5.2pf 1388NP (34.8)
Bradley Beal WAS…………..36.3m 30.1p 5.8r 6.0a 3.5s 2.5b 12.9mfg 1.2mft 3.5to 2.5pf 1378NP (24.0)
Clint Capella HOU……………27.6m 24.3p 19.0r 1.7a 1.3s 3.3b 5.6mfg 2.7mft 2.5to 4.5pf 1359NP (34.3)
Jrue HolidayNO……………….36.3m 25.2p 6.0r 7.7a 1.8s 1.0b 10.5mfg 0.8mft 3.5to 3.3pf 1344NP (23.7)
Enes Kantor NYK………………25.8m 26.2p 20.5r 2.8a 0.9s 1.0b 7.6mfg 0.7mft 3.2to 4.9pf 1330NP (34.9)
Kyle Lowry TOR……………..32.3m 24.6p 8.3r 10.2a 1.7s 0.3b 10.3mfg 0.7mft 3.4to 3.6pf 1309NP (27.0)
Lou Williams LAC……………32.8m 33.3p 3.8r 7.9a 1.6s 0.4b 14.0mfg 1.1mft 4.4to 2.0pf 1300NP (25.4)
Comment: The top 8 positons didn’t change at all- even in the order. Even the individual stats hardly changed. And they won’t change much by the end of the season, which is less than a week away as of this writing.
The number of centers in this listing is interesting. People talk at the center positon as if it’s antiquated and doesn’t matter that much anymore. 10 of the top 25 players in the league, (per net points) are centers. 4 are power forwards. None are small forwards, 6 are shooting guards and 5 are point guards.
Ex-SU Players
Carmelo Anthony OKC…….32.2m 24.3p 8.7r 1.9a 0.9s 1.0b 13.4mfg 0.9mft 1.9to 3.8pf 830NP (17.0)
Jerami Grant OKC……………20.4m 19.3p 9.4r 1.7a 0.9s 2.1b 6.4mfg 4.0mft 1.7to 4.6pf 538NP (16.6)
Wes Johnson LAC…………….20.6m 13.0p 7.1r 1.9a 2.5s 2.1b 7.1mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 4.7pf 370NP (12.5)
Dion Waiters MIA…………….30.6m 22.4p 4.0r 5.9a 1.2s 0.5b 12.9mfg 0.9mft 3.7to 3.2pf 255NP (13.3)
M Carter-Williams CHA….. 16.1m 13.7p 7.9r 6.7a 2.5s 1.3b 8.8mfg 0.9mft 3.0to 5.7pf 240NP (13.8)
Tyler Ennis LAL…………………11.0m 14.4p 6.3r 7.0a 1.8s 0.6b 8.9mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 5.7pf 135NP (12.6)
Malachi Richardson TOR….12.5m 12.9p 4.9r 1.9a 1.5s 0.1b 8.7mfg 0.7mft 1.5to 4.0pf 43NP (6.4)
Tyler Lydon DEN……………….Played 2 minutes in one game and had no other statistics.
If the playoffs started now, Oklahoma City, Miami and Toronto will be in the hunt. But Dion is out for the season. Malachi hasn’t played since 2/11. OKC has a lot of clearly better teams ahead of them in the West. The streak of no SU player playing in the NBA finals since 1980 seems likely to continue.
