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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 4291899, member: 363"] Don't disagree and nobody of sane mind would think that the Knicks as constructed are anywhere near a title team. So long term if you look at the roster you have Brunson and RJ and are in need of a true #1 guy if RJ can keep down the right path of development as potential #2 guy I don't know enough about the Knicks as to how they get there and again I think sometimes too many NBA GM's hide behind a wall of stockpiled draft picks and don't make moves to try and really win. They win the social media battle with trades etc but Teams take shots all the time and fail but sooner or later you need to try and compete with the top tier. I kind of get the feeling that is what the Hawks are going to do here at some point soon if they can get Murray and it may not be enough but at least they are going for it. Crawl, walk, run [/QUOTE]