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Message: [QUOTE="Madbiker, post: 4303321, member: 312"] The Knicks are too desperate so they're going to get fleeced. And Ainge is just the perfect guy to do it. In 2 years when Toppin and Grimes are all stars and the Knicks gave up 3-4 of their own unprotected 1st rounders the hoop pundits will be skewering the Knicks for this trade. I still can't get over how the Knicks passed on drafting Mitchell, who they should have taken, and could have avoided all this. Very likely they will be left with no quality young depth after this. Rumors this a.m. are deal would include Toppin, Quickley, Grimes and McBride and 5 1st round picks. And with little to no draft capital how do they improve or add any quality depth other than journeymen scrubs? [/QUOTE]