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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 4685026, member: 60"] That's all fair. To argue against myself, I'll say this: I do think if Murray didn't get hurt, he would prob have caught one all star already. I also think him being fully healthy for a full year will put him at an all star level, or at least strongly considered. And, if they hold on the 1 or 2 seed again next year, he'll probably get the benefit of the doubt that some other guys may have otherwise gotten. To be clear, if he averages like a 25, 8, 5 in the Finals, I don't care who you are playing with, that's a baller. That's getting it done on the biggest stage. He is more than welcome to come to the Knicks. [/QUOTE]