NC State opens -17 over Syracuse...

[upperdeck]

losing and not being good on the road are not exactly the same thing. dont look at blow out losses like GT. we are 7-8against the spread on the road in the under SS with a win as 6.5 dogs vs nc st 2 years ago. but how we were 14.5 dogs to clemson last year and bigger this year is crazy

 

[Bornorange]

Who the hell have they beaten that they should be considred 10 point favorites on even Rutgers.

 

[gbo]

losing and not being good on the road are not exactly the same thing. dont look at blow out losses like GT. we are 7-8against the spread on the road in the under SS with a win as 6.5 dogs vs nc st 2 years ago. but how we were 14.5 dogs to clemson last year and bigger this year is crazy

You guys have played us very well the last two times.

For the record, the line does seem awfully high.

 

[BlazeOrange]

Cliff Notes look at the matchup:
Record - NC St: 6-2 ; SU: 3-7
NC St Pts. Scored Rank: 46 ; SU Pts. Allowed Rank: 93
NC St Pts. Allowed Rank: 29; SU Pts. Scored Rank: 73
Injury list - NC St: 1 player out & 3 questionable ; SU: 2 players out & 12 questionable (+ 2 suspended?)
QB Situation: NC St: Sr. QB started every game ; SU: Sr. QB & top backup out for season, true FR QB missed last game and probably this one, likely to start a walkon
SU Road record - abysmal ; NC St.: 2-2 at home (a one score loss to UL and put up 41 pts in loss to Clemson)

Many bettors won't look much further before jumping on this one

Source of Stats: http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/

 

[CousCuse]

Don't they look ahead a little to UNC.

 

[money3189]

Fellas we have not been good on the road. 4th quater of South Florida was bad. handled at FSU, Louisville was a disaster, Plus we lost to a 3 win Virginia team.

 

[Pyle]

NC State, Maryland-2013
Wake Forest, Central Michigan- 2014
neutral site game vs. Minnesota was a good win though.

I agree about Minny, it was a very good win, I didn't include it as a road game though because we weren't in a hostile environment. Bowl games are kind of anything but hostile unless your playing the Gators/Seminoles in the Orange Bowl lol.

Or Syracuse in the Pinstripe lolololol.

 

[Quazzum69]

SU sucks

No further analysis needed.

 

[Chris02M]

Fellas we have not been good on the road. 4th quater of South Florida was bad. handled at FSU, Louisville was a disaster, Plus we lost to a 3 win Virginia team.

we lost to the refs too that day

 

[Nicknack]

Man... I WISH I was in Vegas right now or had a bookie which i don't. I've never bet on the 'Cuse in over 25 years since I graduated but in this case, I think I would break my rule and go big. I think we win this game and if not, it won't be by much.

 

[skurey]

Anyone wanna give me 6-1? My 25 to your 150?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We are not held in high esteem.

 

[tipphill]

we win this game---mahony mvp of game---or maybe strickland---if they use him---we win big!!!!omg did i say that

 

[690West]

Anyone wanna give me 6-1? My 25 to your 150?

Wait, is this a positive SU skurey I'm seeing? Love it!!!

 

[skurey]

Wait, is this a positive SU skurey I'm seeing? Love it!!!

Over the long run we win this game way more than 1/7 times. Hopefully one of those will be Saturday.

 

[Chip]

Ha

 

[690West]

2 days in and not even a half point move up or down at any book.

 

[upperdeck]

if i was a gamber just looking at one thing i would look at games in the last 3 weeks, both played at FSU. su lost by 17. nc st by 24

both teams gained 300 yds
su allowed 550, nc st allowed 480

the big stat though.. fsu had 5 TO's vs nc st and zero vs SU.

you can even look at the clemson game. su played them tougher than nc st or fsu did too.

SU has lost on the road, but led Virg all game, was down 7 late against USF, and down 7 in the 2nd half vs FSU

 

[Alsacs]

if i was a gamber just looking at one thing i would look at games in the last 3 weeks, both played at FSU. su lost by 17. nc st by 24

both teams gained 300 yds
su allowed 550, nc st allowed 480

the big stat though.. fsu had 5 TO's vs nc st and zero vs SU.

you can even look at the clemson game. su played them tougher than nc st or fsu did too.

SU has lost on the road, but led Virg all game, was down 7 late against USF, and down 7 in the 2nd half vs FSU

SU lost to FSU 21-45
NCSU lost to FSU 17-34
SU lost to Clemson 27-37
NCSU lost to Clemson 41-56

Our team is 0-4 on the road 25.0 PPG offensively 43.8 PPG defensively.
We -18.2PPG on the road this spread makes some sense when you look at the numbers.

 

[CusefanATL]

SU lost to FSU 21-45
NCSU lost to FSU 17-34
SU lost to Clemson 27-37
NCSU lost to Clemson 41-56

Our team is 0-4 on the road 25.0 PPG offensively 43.8 PPG defensively.
We -18.2PPG on the road this spread makes some sense when you look at the numbers.

When we win, the spread wont make sense.

 

[shandeezy7]

losing and not being good on the road are not exactly the same thing. dont look at blow out losses like GT. we are 7-8against the spread on the road in the under SS with a win as 6.5 dogs vs nc st 2 years ago. but how we were 14.5 dogs to clemson last year and bigger this year is crazy

Except performances versus the spread really don't tell you one way or another what the team's actual performance on the field was. Like we could be a 30 point dog and lose by 29 and beat the spread, but I think you'd be hard pressed to come away impressed by that. I don't think there's any way to look at Shafer's tenure as a head coach other than to say he has been awful on the road.

 

[kirbivore]

backdoor cover to save the houses of those outraged by the point spread