I'd say no league restrictions. If the student-athlete has graduated they have fulfilled all obligations to their current school.
That's why I'm saying - if the kid graduates and has eligibility remaining, they can go to whatever school they want, just the same as any other student that graduates can apply to any other programs anywhere else they choose.
I didn't comment on the rightness or wrongness of this. I spoke only of the fact that it a large and growing phenomenon.
Which seems a bit odd since there are a lot fewer red-shirts on CBB than in CFB. (Yes, I realize that SU has one one, or two, or possibly three, on the upcoming roster).
Also, some of them are getting a degree in 3 years (taking advantage of summer opportunities, like Rak), allowing them to move to greener pastures for that final year of eligibility.
The harm is ... it's fraud. "Graduate" level transfers -- those who've already spent 4 years in college and have not taken a RS year -- are supposed to be pursuing a graduate degree in a given subject area as a condition for a fifth year of sports participation. The rule isn't there so kids can pretend to do graduate studies as a pretext to extend their eligibility. "Graduate students", just like undergraduates, have to be full-time students in a legitimate course of study.
Didn't Paulus get a degree?
Seriously? lol. How about the next kid who couldn't study and/or play because some clown wanted to use a scholarship to scam the system and extend his eligibility; the reputation and resources of a university that offers a place, classroom facilities, professors, scheduling, dormitory room, study table, unlimited food ... all to a poser "student athlete"; the potential effect on the APR (if this counts); potential further problems with the NCAA; the wasted staff and tutor time used by the huckster to "keep up" with classes he or she has no intention of completing ... yada, yada, yada. If you think this should fly at SU you obviously have us confused with Kentucky or 'Bama.
By the way 'Cuse fans, we can benefit from this both ways. In football, we especially can benefit as we can get a Russell Wilson type of transfer at QB (or pick ANY position we need depth in- the list is unfortunately longer than we'd like). Any impact player anticipated to start would be very unlikely to leave Syracuse (as they would play a ton).
Sorry I added a section after the initial post (and your response). This is not personal to you, BTW. But obviously, the rules don't allow for it (all SA's have to maintain full-time academic eligibility) and it is a scam, and we have no business encouraging it or tolerating it ... that is IF we want to get off probation and elevate ourselves above the gutter schools that recruit pass-throughs.
To add to my response above, I also agree that there is a risk anytime you recruit a kid who promises to attend class, most especially a 5th year transfer. We did get burned by the former QB .. thinking that he was a legitimate student (Oaklahoma?). But that was never HCSS's intention -- he knows SU is academically legit. In fact, Shaf is recruiting only kids who want to learn and promise to do so .. he boasted recently that the average GPA of the 2015 class is like 3.2. Clearly, he's trying to run a clean program .. bringing in kids who value education, who understand their academic responsibilities, etc... Yes, some kids will burn us ... and I'll bet in 10 years when they're raking our yards without a degree they'll regret it.
College is a sham and a scam......Lots of people don't finish undergrad and grad. There is NO law against it. In the pretend world of the NCAA all these athletes are Einstein's who should graduate 100%. Laughable expectation! The fraud is the NCAA expecting these kids to perform like indentured servants that bring in riches big bucks to the NCAA and schools involved at the same time pretending that they are there to get an education. Sport comes first even to the detriment of academics. Tell your coach that you have a makeup lab that you need to get a good grade on Saturday for med school and you might get your football scholarship pulled even if you aren't in the 2 deep especially a Saban or a Meyer or other SEC BigX Or Pac 12....The athletic requirements of the kids scream job, employee! The NCAA are morons not to see that their position that athletes are students first is no longer tenable and restricting movement weakens their case even further.
With these views, I doubt you're an alum, or even a college graduate. Either way, you're on the wrong bandwagon, buddy.
You would have made a good slaver.
reedny said:
I would be more worried about the 18 year old with pro dreams not being a student than the 5th year guy who has graduated in 4 years (when it takes the average student almost 5 years to graduate.
If they don't intend to go to class, there's no difference. Sham students are an insult to the University, SU alums and fans, and most especially people like DC and Mookie Jones .. who've worked so hard to get a degree having finally realized how important it is.
