NCAA rules Memphis /C James Wiseman ineligible

[AZOrange]

cal def dropped a dime on penny

I always thought Penny would last 2 years...but he pissed off Cal who’d tip his own mom off to the police...

 

[Cuse1055]

Weitsman should have handed Stewart 500k last winter.

Yep, Weitsman might as well open his pockets with the way recruiting is going.

 

[DNABB5]

The NCAA has improperly benefited its way into destroying my 30 plus year love of college hoops. When all the California Unis start paying kids the NCAA will die. We are witnessing the death throes of college athletes as amateurs

 

[djorange1989]

Just let these kids go pro after high school, NBA people. This is what happens when you force a top 2-3 pick(if he were in this prior draft) to go to college.

 

[skurey]

I really don't understand why the colleges can't be an official minor league for the pros. No one is cheering for these kids because they also take classes at these schools.

 

[310Pigpen]

Weitsman should have handed Stewart 500k last winter.

And Jackson this year.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Ok, but seriously, how does this restraining order magically make it so he can play?

Who is the restraining order against?

And restraining against what?

 

[Alsacs]

Memphis is going to war with the NCAA.
I wish Memphis well but they aren’t a blue blood.

This won’t end well for Penny.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We didn't cheat enough.

 

[DNABB5]

Tark the Shark won in court didn't he?

Seriously I hope this is what breaks the NCAA.

Also Epstein didn't kill himself

 

[Hoo's That]

Ok, but seriously, how does this restraining order magically make it so he can play?

Who is the restraining order against?

And restraining against what?

The way these usually run is that it is a restraining order against the NCAA from preventing the player from participating by enforcing sanctions against the school. The school/player usually wins at the lower court level because the trial judge is sympathetic to the school/player over the NCAA and, if the trial judge rules against the school/player, they go to different trial judges until they get the restraining order (AKA judge shopping). The school/player usually loses at the appeals court level and the school is whacked for using an ineligible player, as threatened in the Tweet Alsacs posted.
This is why Congress needs to specify which Federal court will hear lawsuits against which sports governing body. If the district of Federal courts in Illinois that includes Chicago (just to pick a place) was designated as the only court that could hear cases against the NCAA, there would be far fewer of these baloney orders issued. And, yes, the Constitution gives Congress the authority to specify where these cases can be heard.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

The way these usually run is that it is a restraining order against the NCAA from preventing the player from participating by enforcing sanctions against the school. The school/player usually wins at the lower court level because the trial judge is sympathetic to the school/player over the NCAA and, if the trial judge rules against the school/player, they go to different trial judges until they get the restraining order (AKA judge shopping). The school/player usually loses at the appeals court level and the school is whacked for using an ineligible player, as threatened in the Tweet Alsacs posted.
This is why Congress needs to specify which Federal court will hear lawsuits against which sports governing body. If the district of Federal courts in Illinois that includes Chicago (just to pick a place) was designated as the only court that could hear cases against the NCAA, there would be far fewer of these baloney orders issued. And, yes, the Constitution gives Congress the authority to specify where these cases can be heard.

Awesome. Great explanation.

The fact this can be done still makes no sense to me.

Also, Southerland should have gotten a restraining order.

 

[Hoo's That]

Awesome. Great explanation.

The fact this can be done still makes no sense to me.

Also, Southerland should have gotten a restraining order.

I just found out on our board that it was a Shelby County (Memphis is the county seat) and not a Federal judge that issued the order. That will really make the NCAA come down on them like a ton of bricks once Memphis/Weitsman loses the appeal.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

We should have played Fab.

Frik yes

 

[pfister1]

I just found out on our board that it was a Shelby County (Memphis is the county seat) and not a Federal judge that issued the order. That will really make the NCAA come down on them like a ton of bricks once Memphis/Weitsman loses the appeal.

Weitsmans our guy. Wiseman is the guy who is ineligible and ultimately going to cost Memphis whatever games he plays in.

 

[Hoo's That]

Weitsmans our guy. Wiseman is the guy who is ineligible and ultimately going to cost Memphis whatever games he plays in.

Oops! Mea culpa.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I really don't understand why the colleges can't be an official minor league for the pros. No one is cheering for these kids because they also take classes at these schools.

I disagree.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

What

We get bent over

As someone mentioned, nothing for Kansas, Arizona, and now Memphis

+ North Carolina.

 

[RF2044]

Not like it's any different then stuff Duke has done tho. NCAA hits who they want. Nothing to see with Zion last year.

Agree 100%. The NCAA's enforcement of the rules is arbitrary, capricious, and not tied to precedent in terms of penalties. They also seem to situationally decide who to go after, and who to look the other way for the same infractions.

 

[jncuse]

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[DNABB5]

Because he didn't go to Kentucky.

As an alumnus Penny is a booster for the program in the NCAAs eyes.

 

[orangenauburn]

+ North Carolina.

+ Ohio State, Duke, USC

 

[CusefanATL]

Tark the Shark won in court didn't he?

Seriously I hope this is what breaks the NCAA.

Also Epstein didn't kill himself

this is cheating at any level at any organization.

i dont blame wiseman - but penny blatantly cheated.

And you are blaming the NCAA?

 

[CusefanATL]

Because he didn't go to Kentucky.

As an alumnus Penny is a booster for the program in the NCAAs eyes.

and was pretty clearly already in cahoots with memphis at the time

How Penny Hardaway became the godfather of Memphis basketball

Only Penny could revitalize his hometown Tigers.

www.sbnation.com

"At the same time, Hardaway was winning championship after championship at East High after importing the No. 1 player in the country, James Wiseman, from nearby Nashville. Memphis fans were clamoring for the Tigers to hire Hardaway and Hardaway wanted the job. After just two seasons, Memphis leadership had no choice but to eat $10 million in salary to fire Smith.

There was the only one candidate for the job.

“Memphis did not fire Tubby Smith to conduct a coaching search,” Parrish said. “They fired Tubby Smith to hire Penny Hardaway.”

Hardaway’s credentials went beyond his reputation as a beloved former player and winner at the high school level. His biggest allure might have been his connections within the national recruiting scene."

 

[CusefanATL]

I really don't understand why the colleges can't be an official minor league for the pros. No one is cheering for these kids because they also take classes at these schools.

pro sports arent allowed to tamper either. there are rules at any level that would prevent and/or punish what penny did.