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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 2149152, member: 837"] This is the essential question, IMO, for the program. You can exist in the middle ground and, even though the past few years have been frustrating, we haven't done that bad occupying the landscape we have. I mean, last year was a final four -- ugly season, but there are a million people who questioned JB's ability to win in the postseason for a long time despite good regular seasons, so you can't really totally knock him and, well, a final four is a final four (especially since it included a win over a team in the final this year and a loss to the team that is headed to back-to-back finals). This season was a team that just didn't come together quickly enough -- there were holes and warts but ultimately if the team plays the front half of the schedule the way they played after the BC game, they probably at least comfortably get into the tournament. Obviously the wisconsin and South Carolina losses look a bit different now and maybe we still lose those and St. John's, but probably beat UConn and hopefully beat BC on the road, etc. Three years ago we were 25-0. Point being, things could be worse. But however you classify those seasons, it's interesting to look at the run UNC is on with all their veterans. Same goes for Nova and Gonzaga (every single player who's played in at least 37 games has been on campus for at least three seasons with the exception of Collins). Oregon was a veteran team, South Carolina was led by a badass senior in Thronwell and Notice as well. Other teams who've done well with vets the past few years also include Notre Dame (Colson, Beachem, Vasturia, Farrell and Demetrius Jackson among others in previous years). Bottom line is this: You can win with freshmen studs or really solid veterans. Not sure which is the right way to go. But the thought process behind hiring Griffin could be that you get a really solid coach and put together a solid staff and build around guys who may not be top50 for the most part. Not sure, but it could be something of a factor. [/QUOTE]

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