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Message: [QUOTE="PhatOrange, post: 1638963, member: 229"] true. there's no proof they're slower. I stumbled on these combine numbers from spring. i haven't bothered to check all the players. I think Blacks' times are pretty stellar for his size. His shuttle is particularly impressive and then Coleman's is better. Very impressive for 239#s. I think the numbers are pretty good for both at their weight. combine results at the Chicago Opening – Spring 2015 Josh Black 6-2.5 - Height 235 - Weight 4.9 - 40 4.41 - Shuttle 36 - PB 33.2 - VJ 93.12 - Rating Coleman 6-2.5 - Height 239 - Weight 5.03 - 40 4.38 - Shuttle 34 - PB 31.1 - VJ 85.23 Tim Walton – The Opening Columbus OHIO Results 6-2 - Height 227 - Weight N/A 4.56 - Shuttle 34.5 – PB 26.7 – VJ No Rating [/QUOTE]