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Message: [QUOTE="HoustonCuse, post: 2373173, member: 87"] I am developing a theory that in the aftermath of starkiller base, Snoke loses confidence in Kylo Ren as an apprentice and moves his attention to Rey. Kylo is made to spar those red guards as a test but he is still messed up from killing dad and doesn't do well in the test. Snoke cools on him and says you're gonna have to kill mom to prove your worth. He smashes the helmet in anger at the situation but then can't go through with it. Snoke then goes full boar after Rey and Kylo realizes the depth of betrayal and manipulation he has been victimized with by Snoke causing him to turn against Snoke. Given that Luke has such worry about training Rey, I seriously doubt he would welcome Kylo back and I don't seee Rey training under duress with Snoke so I think this movie ends with three factions: Snoke and first order on one side, Luke on another side, and Kylo Ren and Rey on a third side sort of in between the two extremes. [/QUOTE]