Next Year's worst case scenereo

[normaliswear]

Say Melo and waiters leave and we don't get Noel... the team still looks pretty friggin good.
5- Coleman stud McD AA, 4-Rak McD AA with a year to make that first leap forward, 3- Fair great glue guy who's only going to get better, 2- Trish Senior finally ready to take leadership role, 1- MCW McD AA with a year of growth. Bench Kieta, JS, Grant, Cooney, Mookie (?).
Perhaps a tough thin at guard but really only an issue if theres an injury. Still a top 10-15 team and any of those guys coming/staying just makes us all the better. Great time when this is the WORST lineup we could have next year.

 

[jekelish]

I think that the worst case scenario for next year is that the Mayans were right, and our undefeated season is ruined because of some stupid calendar.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Scoring points could be a big problem. But yes, not bad for a worst case scenario. Borderline Top 25 IMO but that is certainly not bad.

 

[longislandcuse]

Scoring points could be a big problem. But yes, not bad for a worst case scenario. Borderline Top 25 IMO but that is certainly not bad.

I actually think scoring points wont be a problem at all. Rak and DC could be players you can actually throw the ball to downlow and have them get you a bucket. We will have excellent 3 point shooting with MCW/Triche/Cooney and I think CJ could dominate if he develops a competent 3 point stroke.

 

[SoBeCuse]

I actually think scoring points wont be a problem at all. Rak and DC could be players you can actually throw the ball to downlow and have them get you a bucket. We will have excellent 3 point shooting with MCW/Triche/Cooney and I think CJ could dominate if he develops a competent 3 point stroke.

Well, the potential could be there. Rak would need to really improve and work on his low post game. May happen, may not. Defensively I think he will be a good player here by the time he is done. I don't think we have enough of a sample size with MCW to see how well he will shoot playing 25-30 mpg. Triche is streaky and Cooney will probably be fine. If CJ can improving his handle and range then he could really become a weapon. Right now he operates mostly near the basket which could really clog things up with those other two.

 

[longislandcuse]

Well, the potential could be there. Rak would need to really improve and work on his low post game. May happen, may not. Defensively I think he will be a good player here by the time he is done. I don't think we have enough of a sample size with MCW to see how well he will shoot playing 25-30 mpg. Triche is streaky and Cooney will probably be fine. If CJ can improving his handle and range then he could really become a weapon. Right now he operates mostly near the basket which could really clog things up with those other two.

I can see that which is why he has to develop a 3 point shot. If he can and is able to play the 3, rebounding BETTER NOT be an issue with a frontline of CJ/Rak/DC2. If we are clogged up maybe we could try Southerland at the 3 but he has to shoot better. I think MCW is going to be a monster and that is what im most excited about. We will have a sharpshooter and a downlow presence in DC2. Two things we dont necessarily have this year. I know im making assumptions on DC2 and Cooney but I think they are somewhat justified. Also ive seen Rak do some nice things aroung the basket, I think with a year under his belt he could make a Fab-like jump.

 

[texascpa]

Scoring points could be a big problem. But yes, not bad for a worst case scenario. Borderline Top 25 IMO but that is certainly not bad.

Borderline Top 25? Really?

We start in the Top 20 next year even if Waiters and Fab are gone.

 

[SoBeCuse]

I can see that which is why he has to develop a 3 point shot. If he can and is able to play the 3, rebounding BETTER NOT be an issue with a frontline of CJ/Rak/DC2. If we are clogged up maybe we could try Southerland at the 3 but he has to shoot better. I think MCW is going to be a monster and that is what im most excited about. We will have a sharpshooter and a downlow presence in DC2. Two things we dont necessarily have this year. I know im making assumptions on DC2 and Cooney but I think they are somewhat justified. Also ive seen Rak do some nice things aroung the basket, I think with a year under his belt he could make a Fab-like jump.

It's certainly possible and definitely not a bad "worst case scenario." I'll get ulcers if that squad struggles rebounding.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Borderline Top 25? Really?

We start in the Top 20 next year even if Waiters and Fab are gone.

Worst case. Like more end of the season record-wise. Preseason rankings are a load of horse .

 

[EastCoast2]

Who is Trish? Is he a transfer?

 

[orangefan13]

good post. We should be pretty good next year. Still alot of questions though.

just a few...
-Still no 4th guard unless mookie jumped and JB knows we are in on someone. Do we have 2 schollies or one?
-No driving perimeter SF threat which is a big issue unless we get Noels. Need that height to attack when teams pack the paint.
-lots of youth (front and backcourt).
-No proven post scorer if Melo leaves. Who scores in the high and low? Do we have a guy tall enough to be tough in the low?
-Who will step up as 6th men off the bench?? Cooney or DC would have to be the guys if Dion doesn't come back and start over mcw.
-Raks D is slower to the game. Not sure DC will come defensively ready for the college game(but the guy is a stud. Big strong bones working his butt off to be skinnier. Got to love that.

IMO I could see Triche, MCW, CJ, DC2 all saying its their team next year. Dion if he comes back will defnelety be a team leader and I think Rak can make the jump to be one. That says volumes we could have so much leadership next year by mid-late season. We just have so much efficiency there.
Its not out of the possibility that MCW jumps. Doubtfull but not out of the realm of possibility. Hope he takes his time.
Everything about next years team speaks to IQ, athleticism efficiency and leadership.

The door is really open for Noels to join a awesome cast and make us that much better.
Our rebounding is already going to be very good with a tall lineup next year. Noels will put us over the edge to downright nasty!

We should be top 10 next year preseason.

 

[EastCoast2]

I think that the worst case scenario for next year is that the Mayans were right, and our undefeated season is ruined because of some stupid calendar.

Those people defecated in holes in the ground. Do you think they could accurately predict when the world would end.

 

[normaliswear]

Who is Trish? Is he a transfer?

Or a typo. Anything more annoying than people who want to be Captain Spell Check over obvious typos that anyone reading knows what was meant by the context? Jesus. "Than/That typo corrected before Captain creams himself lol

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

We lose arguably our best 4 players after this season...to think we are just a lock as a top 10 type team next year is laughable. Borderline top 25 sounds right. I see a lot of trouble scoring in half court..unless Cooney and Coleman just step right in and become monsters right away.

 

[normaliswear]

good post. We should be pretty good next year. Still alot of questions though.

just a few...
-Still no 4th guard unless mookie jumped and JB knows we are in on someone. Do we have 2 schollies or one?
-No driving perimeter SF threat which is a big issue unless we get Noels. Need that height to attack when teams pack the paint.
-lots of youth (front and backcourt).
-No proven post scorer if Melo leaves. Who scores in the high and low? Do we have a guy tall enough to be tough in the low?
-Who will step up as 6th men off the bench?? Cooney or DC would have to be the guys if Dion doesn't come back and start over mcw.
-Raks D is slower to the game. Not sure DC will come defensively ready for the college game(but the guy is a stud. Big strong bones working his butt off to be skinnier. Got to love that.

IMO I could see Triche, MCW, CJ, DC2 all saying its their team next year. Dion if he comes back will defnelety be a team leader and I think Rak can make the jump to be one. That says volumes we could have so much leadership next year by mid-late season. We just have so much efficiency there.
Its not out of the possibility that MCW jumps. Doubtfull but not out of the realm of possibility. Hope he takes his time.
Everything about next years team speaks to IQ, athleticism efficiency and leadership.

The door is really open for Noels to join a awesome cast and make us that much better.
Our rebounding is already going to be very good with a tall lineup next year. Noels will put us over the edge to downright nasty!

We should be top 10 next year preseason.

I def think Rak makes a big leap next year. Can't ask for a Fab level of improvement but would expect a solid D player with a decent low post game. I think Cooney will eventually be a stud but right away I think he's just a shooter... but even that helps a lot. DC2 I expect will show great flashes, but will experience some real growing pains that will have some people here calling him overrated. He'll be a star, but I don't think it will be in year one. Triche could finally come into his own in this scenerio. If Dion comes back I think it'd be great for the team, but maybe bad for Triche himself. With MCW and Cooney the only other guards Triche would be the unquestioned leader in the backcourt and could really get him to take over more often.

 

[BRNCUSEFRVCUSE]

I dont look for the worst case scenario in life, I look for the best case Scenario in life. Im a positive person

So what bout the possibility that both Dion and Fab come back. Which this years draft could be the deepest draft in recent memory. They come back to play and the preseason 1 team next year, and become potentially top ten picks. Do what (NOAH, HORFORD, AND BREWER) at Florida.

STARTERS

C- FAB

/C- RAK

C.J.

G- DION

G- BRANDON

BENCH

G- MCW

C- DC2

JAMES

G- COONEY

J.GRANT

REDSHIRT- BAYE

ONLY NEGATIVE, NO NERLENS. But i would be willing to give him up

Result were loaded baby, THIS has happened at Florida and UNC recently. Were in those programs classes of elite why couldnt it happen hear. i ALSO remind you with Dion the possibility of being the man next year on that team can not be under estimated. we all love dion but the dude does have a big ego, and Fab academic issue aside whatever it was i think he likes being here in cuse and the jb and the coaching staff and with his teamates as he refers to as family. The nba doesnt have that family feel like in college so dont underestimate that.

 

[normaliswear]

We lose arguably our best 4 players after this season...to think we are just a lock as a top 10 type team next year is laughable. Borderline top 25 sounds right. I see a lot of trouble scoring in half court..unless Cooney and Coleman just step right in and become monsters right away.

I'm still thinking 10-15. Yes we lose our best 4 players, off of a final four caliber team that is built on balance. With the caliber of guys replacing them and standard levels of improvment from guys still here I don't think we'd take THAT far of a step back. A bit yes, but still a very good team IMHO.

 

[normaliswear]

I dont look for the worst case scenario in life, I look for the best case Scenario in life. Im a positive person

So what bout the possibility that both Dion and Fab come back. Which this years draft could be the deepest draft in recent memory. They come back to play and the preseason 1 team next year, and become potentially top ten picks. Do what (NOAH, HORFORD, AND BREWER) at Florida.

STARTERS

C- FAB

/C- RAK

C.J.

G- DION

G- BRANDON

BENCH

G- MCW

C- DC2

JAMES

G- COONEY

J.GRANT

REDSHIRT- BAYE

ONLY NEGATIVE, NO NERLENS. But i would be willing to give him up

Result were loaded baby, THIS has happened at Florida and UNC recently. Were in those programs classes of elite why couldnt it happen hear. i ALSO remind you with Dion the possibility of being the man next year on that team can not be under estimated. we all love dion but the dude does have a big ego, and Fab academic issue aside whatever it was i think he likes being here in cuse and the jb and the coaching staff and with his teamates as he refers to as family. The nba doesnt have that family feel like in college so dont underestimate that.

Why stop there? lol. 5-Fab, 4-Noel, 3- Fair, 2-Triche, 1-Dion... redshirt Grant and Kieta... DC2, Rak, JS, MCW, Cooney bench. Wont happen of course... but if it did that could be the best team since early 90's UNLV

 

[rrlbees]

I see a lot of trouble scoring in half court..unless Cooney and Coleman just step right in and become monsters right away.

The good thing is they are both half court type players.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

Let's say Fab and Dion leave early. Noel goes to UK.

1.)Carter-Williams
2.)Triche
3.)Fair
4.)Christmas
5.)Coleman

Cooney, Keita, Southerland, and Grant come off the bench.

I still like our chances of going on a deep tourney run.

 

[billsin01]

Or a typo. Anything more annoying than people who want to be Captain Spell Check over obvious typos that anyone reading knows what was meant by the context? Jesus. "Than/That typo corrected before Captain creams himself lol

I'm with you, but to be fair 'Trish' is a pretty good butchering of 'Triche'.

 

[EastCoast2]

I'm with you, but to be fair 'Trish' is a pretty good butchering of 'Triche'.

Brandon Tree-Shay for the three

 

[normaliswear]

I'm with you, but to be fair 'Trish' is a pretty good butchering of 'Triche'.

My GF's name is Trish... so the hands tend to autotype it lol

 

[billsin01]

-Still no 4th guard unless mookie jumped and JB knows we are in on someone. Do we have 2 schollies or one?
-No driving perimeter SF threat which is a big issue unless we get Noels. Need that height to attack when teams pack the paint.
-lots of youth (front and backcourt).
-No proven post scorer if Melo leaves. Who scores in the high and low? Do we have a guy tall enough to be tough in the low?
-Who will step up as 6th men off the bench?? Cooney or DC would have to be the guys if Dion doesn't come back and start over mcw.
-Raks D is slower to the game. Not sure DC will come defensively ready for the college game(but the guy is a stud. Big strong bones working his butt off to be skinnier. Got to love that.

Some of these are fair -- fourth guard is important if there is an injury, obviously it would be great to have a good post scorer, etc.

But generally these aren't huge concerns, IMO. Whether Melo stays or goes, we're still without a *proven* post scorer. Melo's great but I've yet to see him do more than catch and finish. The long Js in the L'ville game are great but I'll hold off on calling him a great face-up shooter.

Rak's D should improve. Not a definite, but he should get better. He's certainly talented enough.

No driving perimeter SF threat? Outside of our elite guys like Billy O or Melo, I'm not sure we've ever had that. Even Wallace wasn't really putting the ball on the deck in traffic. CJ is absolutely fine there. Better than fine actually.

Youth -- there is some but not really a lot. Senior leader in Triche, Junior who will have logged over 1,500 minutes in Fair. Junior who has contributed for two years in Keita. Senior who contributed for two years in Southerland. And two sophs who will end up with 300 minutes (give or take) this year in Xmas and MCW. One true frosh in the rotation with one RS frosh (cooney). That's honestly about as veteran a group of players as you're going to get -- at least players that have truly elite talent.

6th man -- Southerland has had ups and downs and Keita as well, but if we were to lose Noel/Melo/Waiters, I really think the minutes Cooney/Keita/Southerland will provide will be plenty. Lots of flexibility in the lineups and the classic 8-man rotation JB is most comfortable with. Won't be the depth we have this year, but certainly not a huge issue I wouldn't think.

 

[Sgt Cuse]

good post. We should be pretty good next year. Still alot of questions though.

just a few...
-Still no 4th guard unless mookie jumped and JB knows we are in on someone. Do we have 2 schollies or one?
-No driving perimeter SF threat which is a big issue unless we get Noels. Need that height to attack when teams pack the paint.
-lots of youth (front and backcourt).
-No proven post scorer if Melo leaves. Who scores in the high and low? Do we have a guy tall enough to be tough in the low?
-Who will step up as 6th men off the bench?? Cooney or DC would have to be the guys if Dion doesn't come back and start over mcw.
-Raks D is slower to the game. Not sure DC will come defensively ready for the college game(but the guy is a stud. Big strong bones working his butt off to be skinnier. Got to love that.

IMO I could see Triche, MCW, CJ, DC2 all saying its their team next year. Dion if he comes back will defnelety be a team leader and I think Rak can make the jump to be one. That says volumes we could have so much leadership next year by mid-late season. We just have so much efficiency there.
Its not out of the possibility that MCW jumps. Doubtfull but not out of the realm of possibility. Hope he takes his time.
Everything about next years team speaks to IQ, athleticism efficiency and leadership.

The door is really open for Noels to join a awesome cast and make us that much better.
Our rebounding is already going to be very good with a tall lineup next year. Noels will put us over the edge to downright nasty!

We should be top 10 next year preseason.

As to your questions, first there would not be the luxury of a 4th guard. Which would be a problem in the case of an injury, but outside of that and developing for the future, it is not a problem. MCW's time right now is just a gift for development and really is meaningless in terms of determining the outcomes of games right now. I agree, there would be very little in terms of a driving SF.
As for the youth, I disagree. BT - senior, CJ - junior, JS-sr, only DC2 as a frosh with minutes.
As to no proven post scorer, there is no proven post scorer now. Fab is not a back to the basket guy. He gets his points from alley-oops and beating his guy down the court, along with one game of a couple of jump shots. It will be easy for DC2 to replace the offensive post game of Fab because it is nonexistant.
Even if Rak doesn't have the development of Fab, there is still CJ and JS to man the forward spots.

As for team leadership, this will no question be Triche's team. And having that attitude permeate throughout the team, will be one of the major plusses of that squad. The Dion as leader thing is scary because his mindset, from my perspective, has never been very far from what is best for Dion. It's almost a plus to have that gone, and clear the way for Triche to be the leader.

MCW jumping?? After this year? Are you serious? Yes, I call that out of the realm of possibility.