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Message: [QUOTE="Martin, post: 1083582, member: 4814"] I think it's 'best' if Syracuse "Orangemen" stays as the nickname. However, our region certainly has an historical relationship to "native Americans". Does the created Saltine Warrior have any relationship to any "native American" 'tribe'/group (clothing, headdress, weapon, etc.)? If so, does that tribe favor any use by SU of the 'Saltine Warrior'? If they do not, then I think that should end the matter. If they do, then I think 'we' {SU, an alum} should. I think the Saltine Warrior gives great tribute to their valor, courage, etc. with NO negatives, and thus as an 'emblem' several University sports teams could promote those characteristics in very helpful ways. The fact that that particular Warrior is 'created' is irrelevant: it is still very much a part of both SU history and Regional history. [/QUOTE]