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Message: [QUOTE="TinyManInside, post: 2328713, member: 1251"] I distinctly remember a conversation I had with one SU player's father in New Orleans in 2003 the day before the National Championship game. He basically went on and on and on about how everyone was making money but the only thing that he and his son were getting was free school, which he emphasized with a Coleman-esque "Whoop-de-da$$-doo!". I went to undergrad and then SU to get a graduate degree that I've used to base my entire professional career and adult life on. I would have killed to have had my entire educational bill paid in full (I'm still paying off student loans accumulated in college and grad school). I guess this made me realize that the value of an education was as much about what YOU YOURSELF put into it, as it is about the name of the school on the diploma. To me that degree from SU has defined nearly my entire adult life, for that player, it was viewed as worthless (and never completed). [/QUOTE]