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Message: [QUOTE="ClamOtto, post: 2914015, member: 368"] This is a big part of what's so maddening about it - it's all an open secret. Literally the week before the story about the FBI investigation came out I was talking to a friend of mine - a huge Michigan St. fan - and listing crooked programs for him, including the obvious Duke and Kentucky but also Michigan St., Arizona, Kansas, Seton Hall, LSU, Ohio State (at least under Matta), NC State, and Auburn. He didn't believe me - especially the MSU part. The next week most were named in the investigation. If a nobody like me know this, the NCAA certainly does. But they have no interest in upsetting the apple cart unless they are embarrassed into it. [/QUOTE]