NIL struggles

[Zelda Zonk]

I suspect the reason why it bothers some folks is because AW desperately and incessantly wanted to be praised for doing it. That seems inarguable, since he still talks about it years after it happened.

I'm not the starf*&#er that some folks are, but it was neat that some celebs came to our games. I just didn't feel any need to profusely thank AW for paying them to do so.

Honest question: how was it demonstrated that he wanted to be praised? All i ever saw was him at the games, and then he participated in a couple of threads when his name was invoked.

And if he's still talking about it, is that not because we are still talking about it? And because a significant block of the fanbase—to which he belongs—has expressed some negative sentiment about him? I think it shows a bit of restraint to not be more active in defending himself. He's a person—a fan—not unlike the rest of us, who happens to have a lot of money. He's not an institution or acting as a company. If someone gets insulted in a thread here, there's a reaction and feelings get hurt and people act retributively. I haven't seen that from him. Again—honest question—am i missing stuff?

 

[Scooch]

Honest question: how was it demonstrated that he wanted to be praised? All i ever saw was him at the games, and then he participated in a couple of threads when his name was invoked.

And if he's still talking about it, is that not because we are still talking about it? And because a significant block of the fanbase—to which he belongs—has expressed some negative sentiment about him? I think it shows a bit of restraint to not be more active in defending himself. He's a person—a fan—not unlike the rest of us, who happens to have a lot of money. He's not an institution or acting as a company. If someone gets insulted in a thread here, there's a reaction and feelings get hurt and people act retributively. I haven't seen that from him. Again—honest question—am i missing stuff?

1. Plastering images all over his Insta was a clear demonstration of how he wanted to be praised. Let's not be naive, he and others in his orbit acknowledge that he likes the attention and wants folks to be grateful for his role in bringing those celebs to games. There's no crime in that but we don't need to pretend his motivation didn't include a substantial amount of self-aggrandizement.

2. He's the one who brought all this up out of thin air over the past couple of months. He started posting old pics on Insta, he started alluding to how he'd still support the program, and he *clearly* got Devo and Etan on board to talk about it all again on their show. I mean, everyone knows our NIL funding is significantly better this offseason, and yet out of nowhere those two started chirping about how underfunded we were. It was false and it was completely transparent where that was coming from.

Anyway, as I always say, AW can do what he wants with his money. If he wants back with the program just run money through the collectives. Easy peasy.

 

[kingtidge]

How do you know that they have said that? I mean, I know that is the rumor. But can you say that as a fact?

I'm not sure if that can be said definitively, TBH... So good clarification.

Wasn't it in the Etan & Devo show comments from Mrs. Lally that got scrubbed??

I thought I saw a screencap of it here or on IG but I can't find it now. If I am mistaken, apologies.

Update: Found it. It was a comment from Weitsman where he insinuated that was the case... definitely NOT a first person statement and was a "he said" accusation:

 

[Cusefan0307]

1. Plastering images all over his Insta was a clear demonstration of how he wanted to be praised. Let's not be naive, he and others in his orbit acknowledge that he likes the attention and wants folks to be grateful for his role in bringing those celebs to games. There's no crime in that but we don't need to pretend his motivation didn't include a substantial amount of self-aggrandizement.

2. He's the one who brought all this up out of thin air over the past couple of months. He started posting old pics on Insta, he started alluding to how he'd still support the program, and he *clearly* got Devo and Etan on board to talk about it all again on their show. I mean, everyone knows our NIL funding is significantly better this offseason, and yet out of nowhere those two started chirping about how underfunded we were. It was false and it was completely transparent where that was coming from.

Anyway, as I always say, AW can do what he wants with his money. If he wants back with the program just run money through the collectives. Easy peasy.

Yup. And that’s where he drives me nuts. He doesn’t shut up. He has to be part of the conversation. I 100% think he wants us to suck next year just so he can be the excuse we stunk. If we are good it’s more difficult for fans to buy into his shtick.

 

[dasher]

I'm not sure if that can be said definitively, TBH... So good clarification.

Wasn't it in the Etan & Devo show comments from Mrs. Lally that got scrubbed??

I thought I saw a screencap of it here or on IG but I can't find it now. If I am mistaken, apologies.

Update: Found it. It was a comment from Weitsman where he insinuated that was the case... definitely NOT a first person statement and was a "he said" accusation:

To be completely clear, I sure wasn't being in anyway critical of you. And what AW wrote may or may not be true. Just that in my travels trying to fix this thing, that was never brought up as a reason. To be fair, most on the University side, the BOT members I talked to never really gave a reason. Just that it wouldn't happen. We really need people on the U';s side to go on the record. But I don't think they ever will.

 

[dasher]

Do you know differently Dash? I know you’ve said you were trying to work out a settlement.

NO. I sure don't. That could be true. I have the feeling from my travels that it is more than that. But the only person that opened up to me was AW. Everyone else treated me as if I was asking for the secret recipe for KFC

 

[ar inj]

Your opinion is fair. With regard to leveraging the celebrity visits, Adam has told me he would have been open to doing other things along with going to games. For instance, a major political figure could speak at the school, or something like that. But, he wasn't asked to do that before being shut down.

Please just stop. The horse is dead and so beaten nobody even remembers it was a horse.

 

[kingtidge]

To be completely clear, I sure wasn't being in anyway critical of you. And what AW wrote may or may not be true. Just that in my travels trying to fix this thing, that was never brought up as a reason. To be fair, most on the University side, the BOT members I talked to never really gave a reason. Just that it wouldn't happen. We really need people on the U';s side to go on the record. But I don't think they ever will.

It was a fair question, no worries.

Do you know if the syracuse.com article got squashed as well?

 

[Zelda Zonk]

1. Plastering images all over his Insta was a clear demonstration of how he wanted to be praised. Let's not be naive, he and others in his orbit acknowledge that he likes the attention and wants folks to be grateful for his role in bringing those celebs to games. There's no crime in that but we don't need to pretend his motivation didn't include a substantial amount of self-aggrandizement.

2. He's the one who brought all this up out of thin air over the past couple of months. He started posting old pics on Insta, he started alluding to how he'd still support the program, and he *clearly* got Devo and Etan on board to talk about it all again on their show. I mean, everyone knows our NIL funding is significantly better this offseason, and yet out of nowhere those two started chirping about how underfunded we were. It was false and it was completely transparent where that was coming from.

Anyway, as I always say, AW can do what he wants with his money. If he wants back with the program just run money through the collectives. Easy peasy.

I would disagree that I’m “naive”—I don’t follow/monitor his Instagram posts. I am ‘uninformed’ of his social media/personal interactions, which is why I asked the question.

Isn’t Instagram, by its nature, self-promotional? Is his more ‘cloying’ just because it features celebs? Seemed like everyone who uses that platform is doing it to “be praised.”

 

[dasher]

It was a fair question, no worries.

Do you know if the syracuse.com article got squashed as well?

I believe they are still working on it.

 

[orangefog]

Please just stop. The horse is dead and so beaten nobody even remembers it was a horse.

I have never started a conversation on this subject.

 

[Scooch]

I would disagree that I’m “naive”—I don’t follow/monitor his Instagram posts. I am ‘uninformed’ of his social media/personal interactions, which is why I asked the question.

Isn’t Instagram, by its nature, self-promotional? Is his more ‘cloying’ just because it features celebs? Seemed like everyone who uses that platform is doing it to “be praised.”

Instagram is what one makes of it. When I post a picture of my kid playing a sport I don’t think it’s self promotional.

But yes, AW’s insta is a mix of blatant self-promotion and entrepreneur-bro self-help motivational jargon. Again, it’s fine. I find it silly but he’s far from alone in doing it.

Look, he himself, and folks here who know him, acknowledge that he loves attention and loves to self promote. I’m really not claiming anything controversial I’m saying that he wanted credit for bringing celebs to the Dome. He did.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Honest question: how was it demonstrated that he wanted to be praised? All i ever saw was him at the games, and then he participated in a couple of threads when his name was invoked.

And if he's still talking about it, is that not because we are still talking about it? And because a significant block of the fanbase—to which he belongs—has expressed some negative sentiment about him? I think it shows a bit of restraint to not be more active in defending himself. He's a person—a fan—not unlike the rest of us, who happens to have a lot of money. He's not an institution or acting as a company. If someone gets insulted in a thread here, there's a reaction and feelings get hurt and people act retributively. I haven't seen that from him. Again—honest question—am i missing stuff?

There's this industry called public relations.
I don't ever recall reading, hearing or seeing anything about Adam before he met Jeff Knauss.

Jeff Knauss started and sold a public relations agency that mostly did "edgy" social media advertising for Syracuse sports. He used that to secure corporate clients. He built the business for about 7 years and successfully sold it. Kudos. Well done. Got out at the right time.

Jeff Knauss calls himself a "serial entrepreneur", but so far, the PR agency is his only real success. The rest of it is just publicity and glamor projects.

Like Blake Lively, for some reason I keep seeing articles about Adam's SU Ban TM on Facebook, on Twitter, on this site, on Nunes Magician, on podcasts, on Inside the Loudhouse.

Now, you might think that's just because WE are talking about it, but you would be mistaken. This was stuff that happened 3 or 4 years ago, right?

Other things happened around that time, like the terrible car accident that Boeheim was involved in. Big news. Nobody's writing about that any more, are they? Why, do you suppose?

Because nobody is asking, giving or paying for favors to keep these stories going. Who benefits? Hamlet does.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

There's this industry called public relations.
I don't ever recall reading, hearing or seeing anything about Adam before he met Jeff Knauss.

Jeff Knauss started and sold a public relations agency that mostly did "edgy" social media advertising for Syracuse sports. He used that to secure corporate clients. He built the business for about 7 years and successfully sold it. Kudos. Well done. Got out at the right time.

Jeff Knauss calls himself a "serial entrepreneur", but so far, the PR agency is his only real success. The rest of it is just publicity and glamor projects.

Like Blake Lively, for some reason I keep seeing articles about Adam's SU Ban TM on Facebook, on Twitter, on this site, on Nunes Magician, on podcasts, on Inside the Loudhouse.

Now, you might think that's just because WE are talking about it, but you would be mistaken. This was stuff that happened 3 or 4 years ago, right?

Other things happened around that time, like the terrible car accident that Boeheim was involved in. Big news. Nobody's writing about that any more, are they? Why, do you suppose?

Because nobody is asking, giving or paying for favors to keep these stories going. Who benefits? Hamlet does.

Okay… thanks for the info about Jeff Knauss,
Maybe this is another “naive” question, but is it possible that the reason you’re seeing material on a given topic is because of a thing called an algorithm? I don’t do Facebook, or Twitter, and I don’t follow people I don’t like on Instagram, so maybe I don’t know and I’m not subjected to All Things Adam.

As for other things happening that are/were big news but aren’t still being circulated/discussed like the Boeheim car tragedy… I’m really not understanding this line of discussion. We are talking about Weitzman now, still, because NIL continues to be an active topic of discussion. And AW was a significant player in that, and some people want him to return to that. Why would anyone want to keep discussing JB’s incident? And I have no idea what Blake Lively has to do with any of this. Was she an AW guest or are you saying you’re inundated with stories about her? Again, the internet is vast, and data rules it all. Algorithms determine a hell of a lot. For four years, I kept getting shown stuff related to Aubrey Plaza and I have never given a tinker’s damn about her. Who benefits? “Why does Radio Shack ask for your phone number when you buy batteries? I dunno.”