No Love for KJo......

[newmexicuse]

Early mocko - no KJo......

http://www.mynbadraft.com/2012-NBA-Mock-Draft

If we end up Top 3 in the nation & go deep into the dance, maybe KJO gets into the first round.

On the plus side...also no Melo.

 

[newmexicuse]

Who made that site up? Regardless kjo isnt nba material imo anyway.

I think KJo is definitely draftable. I would guess any where from last 1/3 of first round into somewhere in the second round. His draft status will be hurt if his knees act up since he isn't a can't miss type of talent.

If KJo stays healthy and improves incrementally, I see no reason why he can't make an NBA roster & perhaps at some point be a rotation player.

 

[Garbs]

no one is going to waste their 1st rounder on a 23 year old SF who averages 14ppg

 

[Upstate]

no one is going to waste their 1st rounder on a 23 year old SF who averages 14ppg

Had Robbie Hummel not been injured, are you saying he wouldn't have been drafted after last year?

 

[Garbs]

Had Robbie Hummel not been injured, are you saying he wouldn't have been drafted after last year?

probably not in the 1st round

 

[Garbs]

scratch that, definitely not

 

[Upstate]

probably not in the 1st round

Gordon Heyward, too. He was 21 last season on Utah. another 15 and 6 guy. He was a top-10 pick. He doesn't have KJ's athelticism.

 

[shermstheman]

No way kjo is nba material. Not happening buddy. Hes a good college player and will play for pay somewhere other than the nba.

As I see it, players who get drafted had better be exceptional in at least one thing and good at everything (with free throws often a glaring exception). What is KJo expceptional at? I'm not sure. Also, players are drafted for potential. I think we see what we get with KJo. Younger players can develop exponentially from year to year...the NBA drafts on that premise...hence why so many frosh get drafted. Guess I'm stating the obvious.

 

[Garbs]

Gordon Heyward, too. He was 21 last season on Utah. another 15 and 6 guy. He was a top-10 pick. He doesn't have KJ's athelticism.

he can shoot and led his team to the national championship

 

[Garbs]

also you know 21 is 2 whole years less than 23 right?

 

[realorange]

No way kjo is nba material. Not happening buddy. Hes a good college player and will play for pay somewhere other than the nba.

Exactly as Albany said. He doesn't even begin to have a handle or the rebounding ability to play in the NBA.

 

[jekelish]

Kris is all the way down to 75 on the ESPN top 100 prospects. Our highest ranked prospect? Dion Waiters.

 

[Upstate]

he can shoot and led his team to the national championship

Wes Johnson was 23 2 months after the NBA draft in 2010. averaged similar numbers to KJ and was a top-4 pick. Why can't Kris Joseph be a first rounder?

Trevor Booker, 1st rounder 2010, 15 ppg, only 6-8, 23 years old
Damion James, 1st rounder, 15ppg, a 6-7 PF, also 23

those two were 1st rounders in the 2010 draft and didn't get nearly as much attention as KJ is doing this year. Saying KJ absolutely can't go in the 1st round is ignorant. There have been much worse players going in the 1st round than Kris.

 

[newmexicuse]

As I see it, players who get drafted had better be exceptional in at least one thing and good at everything (with free throws often a glaring exception). What is KJo expceptional at? I'm not sure. Also, players are drafted for potential. I think we see what we get with KJo. Younger players can develop exponentially from year to year...the NBA drafts on that premise...hence why so many frosh get drafted. Guess I'm stating the obvious.

I think the strength of KJo's game is transition. Is he exceptional in transition by NBA standards ? Maybe not, but he would be at least very good.

He has a viable mid-range game and range to the trey line. Yes, he could be a better shooter, but there are plenty in the NBA that don't shoot as well as KJo. He can drive when given a lane, but he doesn't handle well enough to "create" a lane. He is not a great passer, but on the plus side he is unselfish. He is doing a nice job on the glass. He has decent strength and athleticism.

All in all, I say he will get drafted if he stays healthy all year long, but he will have improve & lead us deep into the dance to get taken in round one.

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

no one is going to waste their 1st rounder on a 23 year old SF who averages 14ppg

THIS. KJo has an injury history, he is old..he is slow... he is "ordinary" at most all NBA skills. Not great at anything. Not sure why anyone would waste a #1 on him. There is essentially no upside.

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

Wes Johnson was 23 2 months after the NBA draft in 2010. averaged similar numbers to KJ and was a top-4 pick. Why can't Kris Joseph be a first rounder?

Wes looked like he belonged in the NBA when he was on the court. He has the athleticism and jumps like a pogo stick. KJo will look very slow out there guarding 3's and trying to get by 3's on offense. His game reeks of European Leagues. The NBA drafts athletes with potential. KJo is not a great athlete, not a great shooter, not a great rebounder, not a great passer, not a great driver, etc. Remember...Rick Jackson didn't even get a sniff. The league likes athletes, not 4 year compilers in college.

 

[Upstate]

Wes looked like he belonged in the NBA when he was on the court. He has the athleticism and jumps like a pogo stick. KJo will look very slow out there guarding 3's and trying to get by 3's on offense. His game reeks of European Leagues. The NBA drafts athletes with potential. KJo is not a great athlete, not a great shooter, not a great rebounder, not a great passer, not a great driver, etc. Remember...Rick Jackson didn't even get a sniff. The league likes athletes, not 4 year compilers in college.

so kris joseph isnt an athlete? I'll refer you to BK's avatar. Rick was never an athlete, Kris has always been an athlete. Is Rip Hamilton an athlete? Is he fast? There are plenty of NBA players that aren't the best athletes in the world. Not everyone in the NBA is LeBron James. Kris has shown that he can improve his game, and has done so every year. He needed longer than others to grow into his body and fill out, but that is why he needs to enter the league at 23. There have been a lot of others in the 22-23 range that have been drafted.

 

[Knicks411]

Kris might end up being drafted, who the hell knows. But I don't like his prospects of contributing in the NBA at any significant level.

 

[SouthCampusHero]

THIS. KJo has an injury history, he is old..he is slow... he is "ordinary" at most all NBA skills. Not great at anything. Not sure why anyone would waste a #1 on him. There is essentially no upside.

you are describing Lazar Hayward...a first round pick.

 

[realorange]

so kris joseph isnt an athlete? I'll refer you to BK's avatar. Rick was never an athlete, Kris has always been an athlete. Is Rip Hamilton an athlete? Is he fast? There are plenty of NBA players that aren't the best athletes in the world. Not everyone in the NBA is LeBron James. Kris has shown that he can improve his game, and has done so every year. He needed longer than others to grow into his body and fill out, but that is why he needs to enter the league at 23. There have been a lot of others in the 22-23 range that have been drafted.

Kris is a very nice college player. But let me give you an old line: Kris couldn't carry Rip Hamilton's jock.

 

[Upstate]

Kris is a very nice college player. But let me give you an old line: Kris couldn't carry Rip Hamilton's jock.

I never said KJ was better than Rip Hamilton, I simply said, he isn't the super athlete that every seems to think you need to be to play in the NBA.

 

[SouthCampusHero]

such a bad comparison, lazar has more aggressive play in his pinkie than kjo does in his whole game. and lazar is a more polished scorer as well.

polished scorer, huh?

"Hayward's 9.3 rebound rate is pretty impressive for a 6-6 forward, but that's about the end of the good news. Offensively, Hayward was bad from every spot on the floor; he shot only 56.8 percent at the rim, and didn't make more than a third of his tries any place else. He didn't draw fouls at a high rate or do anything as a ball handler to offset his putrid shooting.
The bigger surprise was his defensive struggles. Synergy's stats rated him the worst player on the team by a wide margin; according to 82games.com opposing small forwards had a 17.5 PER against him. Hayward had a rep as a tough defensive ace in college but was defending mostly 4s and 5s. Matched up against wings, his lateral quickness may be deficient.

 

[SouthCampusHero]

He can score from long range and down low and isnt afraid to mix it up. Your source is wrong.

You are right; John Hollinger is wrong. Got it.

 

[Upstate]

He can score from long range and down low and isnt afraid to mix it up. Your source is wrong.

Yes, his blistering 35% from the field, and 28% from three makes him as polished as an old trombone.

 

[jekelish]

As much as I love Kris, he will get a look and maybe make an NBA roster, but he will never be more than a 10th man at best. He is solid in a lot of areas but not great at any. Put it this way: if Todd Burgan couldn't make it to the league, I don't see how Kris can make any sort of impact. Burgan had a better handle, shot it better, rebounded better and was stronger. Not as explosive as Kris, but athletic anyway.

I hope Kris makes it, but I just don't know if it'll happen.