Notre Dame - 5 Games Against ACC Teams Each Year
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TexanMark
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Not necessarily...ND just might play 6 ACC games in those years to retain playing games in NJ.
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Just so I'm clear... If SU was good and had a schedule some season with Dome games against, say, a top 5 FSU team and a top 15 NC State team, people in CNY would not go, because SU 2 year earlier played a "home" game at MetLife against ND?
I just want to understand this.
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VT, Miami, Clemson, UMD, BC, Pitt, NCSU, GT, UVa, etc not good enough for you guys?
Any program they get will be one that has no interest in playing on our campus.
The arms race never ends.
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They aren't all in the same year. We've gone thru this before. Plus in any single year, some of those teams won't be any good.
Btw, wasn't USC good enough fir you guys?
Also, I have no doubt good teams would come to the Dome. They play at other schools home fields, like we have also discussed before.
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Probably not. SU continues on their decade or more run if saying they don't care about Dome attendance nor the fans.
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Bees, seriously, what do you want? Forget the USC/MetLife thing for a minute. Besides having a much better football team for the past decade, what should SU be doing? They play in a stadium where every seat is good, and tickets are reasonably priced. Parking can be a hassle, but life ain't perfect. I just don't get it.
When I was a kid I went to watch crappy Pats games in a joke of a stadium where it would take 2 hours to exit the parking lot after the game. But it was a fun day.
I honestly don't know what you want SU to do?
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Don't you guys me, it's honestly easier for me to get to SU than to the Meadowlands. I95 is the road of death.
We have discussed it, the payday to go to SU stinks. Our hoops team doesn't travel to bandboxes to play either.
The Dome needs to blow up their pricing scheme and start over. You feel like you're getting screwed yet you can slap a beachball over and hit a guy who's getting a huge deal.
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When I get the time, I'll give you a list of things SU has done that says screw the fan, especially the real diehards.
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That'd be great since it seems like half your posts are bitching and moaning about this stuff, but you never actually say what you're upset about.
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When I say you guys, I don't mean you personally and probably nobody on this board. You guys is a general statement for the alumni.
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The party line out of the school is that the money is too good and the player dig it and it helps recruiting.
All things being equal I'd just as soon see them do what you want. With the ACC I'll get to see SU sports much much more. But if they get a game that is a big deal that they would not otherwise get I can see the rationale. Frankly I think the stadium is way too big and it's just a huge bowl in a parking lot. Would rather see them play in a venue that looks better than that.
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Right...and if they didn't think it was worthwhile the party line would've been something else.
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Anyone else hearing that the Lubin House will be turned into a dorm for the football players? And that they will be taking classes at the new Fisher Center? Then through Coughlin SU was able to secure SU using the Giants practice facility and will play all games at MetLife? What a great man and coach TC is. This will be awesome for our FB program. What kid wouldn't want to live and go to school in NYC, then go practice where the World Champion Giants practice? It will do wonders for recruiting. And it will save the university a ton of money as we no longer need to build FB facilities. I am so excited.
The Pitt and BC contracts with Notre Dame are being adjusted because of the 5 ACC games requirements. The SU-ND series should be adjusted as well. Move the Metlife games to the Dome there is no reason for Dr. Gross to move them now or he is w#oreing out the program. Games at Metlife vs. Notre Dame will be neutral field games AT BEST versus true home games at the Dome.
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Caller on WFNZ in Charlotte "Notre Dame will compete in the ACC in all sports but football. So they're Duke."
That's funny
That's funny
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http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2012/09/syracuse_ad_daryl_gross_reacts.html
"Syracuse already has four games against Notre Dame in the near future. In 2014 and 2016, Notre Dame will play Syracuse at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. In 2015 and 2017, Notre Dame will host Syracuse in South Bend, Ind. Those games are likely to count toward the 5-game agreement."
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Has anyone clarified whether the last sentence applies to both of the ones before it, or only the prior one?
Regardless, it presents logistical issues if they plan to get right into the play each team every three years schedule, as SU would be taking other ACC teams spots. And would be giving up Dome-field advantage either way. Not sure on the # of games in the other deals ND has with Pitt and BC (or if they have other games already lined up with other ACC teams), but those would factor in as well. Doubt it will fly on Tobacco Road if the northern schools (including two new ones) keep 3/5 of the ND games during the first several years of the agreement.
There is also the issue of how it will be split up. Five games a year with each team playing them every three years works great if the ACC was a 15 team conference, but there are only 14 teams:
Year 1: ND at teams 1,2 and hosting teams 3,4,5
Year 2: ND at teams 6,7,8 and hosting teams 9,10
Year 3: ND at teams 11,12 and hosting teams 13,14, and who?
The devil is in the details and once they look at all the details, I think it's highly unlikely that they'll be able to begin the rotation with a straight distribution of games - which will prompt all kinds of people to overreact/accuse them of renegging like the BE handshake deal/etc. Factor in the potential of them ultimately joining the conference and the savvy schools will ensure that they get their home games in early in the sequence.
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I think you are severly overanalyzing all this.
1) already schduled games between ACC teams and ND will count towards the 5 required games.
2) ND has agreed to play each ACC team at least once every 3 years. Since there are 14 other ACC teams for them to play some will be played more than once each 3 years.
3) Since SU has games already scheduled, they will play them more than once every 3 years and they have already agreed to play away from the Dome.
4) Once the Metlife agreement runs its course with ND, maybe, MAYBE, we will get another ND carrier dome game.
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Whoa...I am somewhat surprised at the backlash about playing Notre Dame in NY/NJ which is/are are already scheduled. Note that Notre Dame is not an ACC team it is an OOC game. Those games against ACC teams already scheduled are going to be given preference according to link below (and good video-audio interview by Swofford)...and will hopefully take place where already scheduled. The fact is that Notre Dame will play the required 5 games a year against the ACC...and hopefully this results in all ACC teams playing Notre Dame every three years...but don't forget games already scheduled between Notre Dame and ACC teams...
It is possible for Notre Dame to play more than 5 ACC teams a year if it chooses to do so...BUT it must play 5 games.
Additionally, I do not view our games in NY/NJ being a negative. I understand for the SU fan in central NY this is not where they want 'Cuse to play; however, for the alumns outside of Central NY, NYC is a great place to visit for a game. Also, is or is not 'Cuse NYS team...if so...games outside the Dome are nessary...remember we like playing games at Madison Square Garden too.
Notre Dame will get to Syracuse eventually, but not for the already scheduled game in the Meadowlands.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ord-on-football-status-and-oh-yeah-notre-dame
It is possible for Notre Dame to play more than 5 ACC teams a year if it chooses to do so...BUT it must play 5 games.
Additionally, I do not view our games in NY/NJ being a negative. I understand for the SU fan in central NY this is not where they want 'Cuse to play; however, for the alumns outside of Central NY, NYC is a great place to visit for a game. Also, is or is not 'Cuse NYS team...if so...games outside the Dome are nessary...remember we like playing games at Madison Square Garden too.
Notre Dame will get to Syracuse eventually, but not for the already scheduled game in the Meadowlands.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ord-on-football-status-and-oh-yeah-notre-dame
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If games already scheduled against ND will not change and the 5 games against ACC opponents begins in 2014, then the cycling through all 14 ACC teams isn't likely to begin in earnest until 2019.
Cheers,
Neil
Cheers,
Neil
