Notre Dame vs The World

[Scooch]

Well this was the nail in the coffin then

It most certainly is not. ND has almost nothing to do with how the future of the ACC plays out. **Because they are not a football member**

 

[Orangefizz]

Syracuse is never getting a B10 invite. If and when the Acc implode (I do believe it will) SUs best shot is a B12 invite as their Commissioner desperately wants a NE wing/corridor for the conference.

Spot on; it’s also how I see it playing out.
A NE division with BC, UCONN, PITT, WV sounds about right.

 

[Briancuse]

Not really. Notre Dame was competing with Alabama for a spot. And to be honest, it really doesn't make sense that a three loss team, especially with one of those losses being against Florida State, would hop over Notre Dame for a playoff spot. I went to Syracuse, and I am a proud alumni, but all I see in this thread are a lot of jealous people of Notre Dame.

The bottom line is that Notre Dame is a much better university than Syracuse.

Im not here to argue what university is better. Alabama played a tougher schedule and had better wins than Notre Dame did. They played one more game, the conference championship game and lost to the best team in the country.

 

[AZOrange]

Answer my other question

I mean isn’t that answered by byu? Bama got into the sec championship by way of a tiebreaker.

 

[DaCuse]

Im not here to argue what university is better. Alabama played a tougher schedule and had better wins than Notre Dame did. They played one more game, the conference championship game and lost to the best team in the country.

They lost to Indiana? I must've missed that game!

 

[Ttk.gman2]

I mean isn’t that answered by byu? Bama got into the sec championship by way of a tiebreaker.

They won the SEC during the regular season

 

[Cheriehoop]

So let me get this right. Notre Dame will never join a conference because its independence is in its’ “DNA”. However blaming the ACC for ND’s own predicament by preferring a full conference member who even beat them on the field, sure doesn’t seem to be a move by a truly independent competitor does it? Why not blame Alabama and the SEC? Why does Notre Dame cry when that independence they claim so self righteously, hurts them, becoming the “we want our cake and eat it too program”? Is it the ACC’s fault they lost to Miami on the field - how independent are you when you cry loudly about a conference not putting your program, a non conference member above a conference member who beat you on the field? Does Notre Dame think they are so entitled that the SEC, Big 10 etc would lobby on their behalf above a full conference member who beat you? Why? What truly is your meaning of independence, TerryD?

 

[Forza Azzurri]

So let me get this right. Notre Dame will never join a conference because its independence is in its’ “DNA”. However blaming the ACC for ND’s own predicament by preferring a full conference member who even beat them on the field, sure doesn’t seem to be a move by a truly independent competitor does it? Why not blame Alabama and the SEC? Why does Notre Dame cry when that independence they claim so self righteously, hurts them, becoming the “we want our cake and eat it too program”? Is it the ACC’s fault they lost to Miami on the field - how independent are you when you cry loudly about a conference not putting your program, a non conference member above a conference member who beat you on the field? Does Notre Dame think they are so entitled that the SEC, Big 10 etc would lobby on their behalf above a full conference member who beat you? Why? What truly is your meaning of independence, TerryD?

Also, if Miami makes it, means $$$ for the ACC.

If Notre Dame makes it, means $$$ for ND and ACC gets nada.

Am I wrong about this?

 

[BeetleCuse]

This is also why I hope Syracuse can join the Big Ten in the next round of conference realignment and be part of the emerging “super leagues” of the SEC and BIG 10. To compete at that level, we’ll need to consistently make the playoffs, make noise on a national stage, and continue recruiting elite talent. Down the road, I want to see us going toe-to-toe with programs like Georgia and Alabama in the postseason. I believe it’s possible, but it will require doubling or even tripling our investment in both the football and basketball programs, proving that Syracuse can evolve and compete with the times.

I don’t know if it will happen, but I agree. I think a “northeast” conference would be the end of college football for Syracuse as we know it. It would quickly become a very low level league. The northeast is a really bad area for recruiting, booster money, and fan support. A regional conference would only reduce our recruiting area, as currently competing against midwestern and southern teams expand our reach.

 

[OburgOrange]

 

[Willy75]

ND and its fans aren’t all over the SEC/Alabama because they know they can’t bully them. Good for the ACC for standing up.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Never knew how delusional ND fans were. Completely out of touch.

ACC teams play ND at home roughly 1 in 6 years in lieu of another P4. With the small capacity stadiums in the ACC we are talking nabe a 5k bump in attendance for one game in six years. That isn’t a golden goose.

They also act like the 2-3 games gets the ACC an extra $50M a year and ND doesn’t get paid at all from the ACC. No clue.

 

[orangmannc1]

In case this article hasn't been posted. ND is sticking it to, among others, ESPN. Will they bolt the ACC relationship and go to one with the B1G to further stick it to ESPN?

Notre Dame’s Bowl Boycott Is a Direct Shot at ESPN

There’s rising anger inside and outside South Bend toward the CFP committee, ACC, and their TV partner ESPN.

frontofficesports.com

ND can suck it.
"ESPN’s ACC Network repeatedly replayed Miami’s opening week 27–24 win over Notre Dame in the lead-up to Selection Sunday."
What would the ACC Network show instead? I guess they could of shown the ND-SU game instead. The ratings would have been through the roof!
If Fran can win the game next year against ND, what a sweet thing that would be.

 

[orangefog]

Never knew how delusional ND fans were. Completely out of touch.

ACC teams play ND at home roughly 1 in 6 years in lieu of another P4. With the small capacity stadiums in the ACC we are talking nabe a 5k bump in attendance for one game in six years. That isn’t a golden goose.

They also act like the 2-3 games gets the ACC an extra $50M a year and ND doesn’t get paid at all from the ACC. No clue.

I think what you meant to say is "Thank you almighty Notre Dame. We are beyond lucky to have any association with such a superior school and football program. We humbly beg your forgiveness, please don't banish us to obscurity, as only you have the power to do."

 

[Lord Ashby]

ND can suck it.
"ESPN’s ACC Network repeatedly replayed Miami’s opening week 27–24 win over Notre Dame in the lead-up to Selection Sunday."
What would the ACC Network show instead? I guess they could of shown the ND-SU game instead. The ratings would have been through the roof!
If Fran can win the game next year against ND, what a sweet thing that would be.

Your last sentence leads me to believe that you broke out the bong early today.

 

[atlanticuse]

Miami missed the playoffs last year thx to SU.
ND went to the championship.
This year, Miami is going. ND stays home and is pouting.

I’m just sick and tired of SEC schools. I wish Bama and De Boer would go away. But ND can only blame ND for playing Miami head to head.

As Saban said on College Gameday, EVERY game is a must win game.

 

[Niastri]

I know their fans won't see it, but it is in their best interest to join the conference.

With a big 4 of Clemson - FSU - Miami - ND the ACC will always be a P4 conference
The ACC is weak? As long as it is a P4 conference who cares? Win it and you are in the playoffs.
We like our schedule? Like you said, it is only a game or two difference
We need our own TV contract? Fine keep it figure out the details so it is a win for everyone

Over time, they would take over power in the conference IMO. I don't see it as a big negative as they do the only negative is that they have always been independent, it is our history stuff...

I would rather a Notre Dame/Northeast Axis over the Carolina Mafia that currently runs things.

At least after begging Notre Dame to join for two decades, the current ACC powers wouldn't be able to ignore/screw over everybody outside Carolina like they have been for decades... That counterweight would probably be really good for Syracuse, Pitt, BC and probably the western teams that joined recently as well. ND would be paradigm shifting for the ACC in a few ways.

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[Niastri]

I’m still kind of surprised ND has the national brand clout from 30 years ago when they established their NBC deal. It seems there’s several programs with significantly more national appeal. As long as NBC keeps paying them they will stay independent. They’ll join a conference the second after NBC terminates their contract, but it seems like that won’t happen anytime soon.

Notre Dame is still a huge draw... A lot of eyeballs tune in whenever they play. When they play well, only big rivalry games between top teams are bigger TV events.

 

[David321]

 

[orange79]

This is one of the most stupid tweets in the history of tweeting.

 

[orange79]

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[Atlcuse44]

I don't have the ND hate that a lot of people have. Probably because I am more of a football traditionalist and admire their history. I think that if ND & Miami had a play-in game, ND would win this time.

That said, the ND AD's comments reek of entitlement. How can you justify putting in ND over Miami when ND lost head to head? While ND is looking really good right now, they lost to the 2 best teams on their schedule. The rest of their schedule was weak sauce (besides maybe USC).

The lesson the AD's are getting out of all of this is: Limit scheduling heavyweights out of conference and definitely do not do that at the beginning of the season. I think the days of having some exciting out of conference match-ups the fist week or two of the season is coming to an end. Sadly, that means more boring cream-puff games.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

 

[richmondcuse03]

Where is this money they gave us? Is it in the room with us right now?