Nova Lost to Richmond over the weekend

[TheCusian]

I'm not wrong. The game was over in the 2nd quarter, I was there, people were ready to leave before halftime (actually the couple next to us were gone before the 3rd Q started). If the roles were reversed we would be saying that we let up in the 2nd half and played a dumb down version of our offense and that's why MD's defense played so well in the 2nd half. It doesn't matter that our defense shut down the MD offense in the 2nd half, the game was over at that point. That's a moral victory.

And I've never said we are horrible, never once. People continue to miss my point regardless of how clearly I spell it out. It's ridiculous for people to act like we are on par with teams we lost too. We haven't beaten one solid team yet unless you count Villanova.
We have zero right to say we are on par with MD, BC, Pitt, or Rutgers. It's ludicrous. It's Rutgersal "USC of the East Coast" type talk, maybe a dumb down version but still just as ludicrous.

If team A has 500 yds of offense and holds the team B to less than a hundred in the 2nd half, then team A is most likely winning the game. End of story.

As for being on par with the rest of the NE, here's your numbers nationally through last week (out of 128 teams), followed by W-L:

Syracuse ... Total O: #93 / Total D: #38 - (3-6)
Maryland ... Total O: #109 / Total D: #89 ... (6-3)
Boston College ... Total O: #68 / Total D: #11 ... (6-3)
Rutgers ... Total O: #90 / Total D: #82 ... (5-4)
Pitt ... Total O: #52 / Total D: #20 ... (4-5)
Penn St ... Total O: #110 / Total D: #3 ... (4-4)
UCONN ... Total O: #125 / Total D: #48 ... (2-6)

I'd take any of those W-L records outside of UCONN. Clearly Maryland is getting lucky, while our w-l is out of whack with our #'s (pointing to a lot of close games). Pitt is similar to us in that their #'s aren't translating to W's. But they are better than us #'s wise.

Here's the same breakdown, only putting them in order after averaging their D and O rankings:

1. Pitt: 36
2. BC: 39.5
3. Penn St: 56.5
4. Syracuse: 65.5
5. Rutgers: 86
6. UCONN: 86.5
7. Maryland: 99

 

[CU44SE]

Wow. Watch the games...

You clearly didn't.

By the way, USF another 3-6 team like syracuse only lost 24-17 against Maryland and were winning at one point in the fourth quarter. But good to know people are more worried about yards then wins and losses. Maybe I should start looking at that. The team with more yards wins games. Got it.

 

[xc84]

So can we please stop justifying that 2OT win over the "best FCS team"?

They're not even the best FCS team in the Colonial Athletic Association.

You have been waiting and hoping for this Villanova loss a long time, I can tell. Your wish has been granted!

 

[CU44SE]

If team A has 500 yds of offense and holds the team B to less than a hundred in the 2nd half, then team A is most likely winning the game. End of story.

As for being on par with the rest of the NE, here's your numbers nationally through last week (out of 128 teams), followed by W-L:

Syracuse ... Total O: #93 / Total D: #38 - (3-6)
Maryland ... Total O: #109 / Total D: #89 ... (6-3)
Boston College ... Total O: #68 / Total D: #11 ... (6-3)
Rutgers ... Total O: #90 / Total D: #82 ... (5-4)
Pitt ... Total O: #52 / Total D: #20 ... (4-5)
Penn St ... Total O: #110 / Total D: #3 ... (4-4)
UCONN ... Total O: #125 / Total D: #48 ... (2-6)

I'd take any of those W-L records outside of UCONN. Clearly Maryland is getting lucky, while our w-l is out of whack with our #'s (pointing to a lot of close games). Pitt is similar to us in that their #'s aren't translating to W's. But they are better than us #'s wise.

Here's the same breakdown, only putting them in order after averaging their D and O rankings:

1. Pitt: 36
2. BC: 39.5
3. Penn St: 56.5
4. Syracuse: 65.5
5. Rutgers: 86
6. UCONN: 86.5
7. Maryland: 99

And again, I ask what games have been close? Villanova and ncstate are the only games within a touchdown. To which I would classify close. We won one and lost one. I won't even go into the fact that nova is an FCS team or that it's NC st's coaches first ACC win.

 

[xc84]

Richmond hung in there against NC St last year, beat every time they play them, won a national championship a few yrs ago

both Richmond and Villanova are decent

Wow...not what I expected!

 

[Ozcuse]

You have been waiting and hoping for this Villanova loss a long time, I can tell. Your wish has been granted!

If that was the case I would have posted right after the game, not three days later.

 

[TheCusian]

And again, I ask what games have been close? Villanova and ncstate are the only games within a touchdown. To which I would classify close. We won one and lost one. I won't even go into the fact that nova is an FCS team or that it's NC st's coaches first ACC win.

You realize that being within a TD at the final buzzer is a faulty metric, right?

The NC State game shows this perfectly. We didn't get within a TD until the final minute. But we had the lead in the 3rd and looked like the very definition of a close game. How about Clemson? We were leading that game by 3 at the half and within a TD until the last half go the 4th Q when Clemson scored a TD late?

Again - the MD game was a travesty. We gave up 1 good drive, 1 broken play on O, and a pick 6. If you remove just the last 2 (the horrible screen pass we misplayed and Hunt's pick 6) - it's an entirely different game.

 

[xc84]

If that was the case I would have posted right after the game, not three days later.

True. You had a lapse.

 

[CU44SE]

You realize that being within a TD at the final buzzer is a faulty metric, right?

The NC State game shows this perfectly. We didn't get within a TD until the final minute. But we had the lead in the 3rd and looked like the very definition of a close game. How about Clemson? We were leading that game by 3 at the half and within a TD until the last half go the 4th Q when Clemson scored a TD late?

Again - the MD game was a travesty. We gave up 1 good drive, 1 broken play on O, and a pick 6. If you remove just the last 2 (the horrible screen pass we misplayed and Hunt's pick 6) - it's an entirely different game.

But you can't do that. You can't take away this drive or that drive. They were absolutely killers. But you can't justify the game being close. The game did go that way and it wasn't close. And I agree with you on NC ST, I said it in another blog. It just seemed we had no shot of winning after that pick 6. And like you said garbage points make it look closer. Well we scored a TD against Maryland with 48 seconds left. It was 34-13 just before that. 21 points is a blowout no matter how you try and spin it. Especially when Maryland didnt do anything crazy in the second half. It was mostly run for them. And according to your stats, Marylands 108 ranked offense and 89th ranked defense beat us 34-20. The Clemson game was close for most of the game, but have you seen clemsons offense with cole stoudt at QB? Their offense would rank below ours. He has accounted for 2 TD's all year long and he has played a lot more then Watson. We lost by 10 with no real offensive threat. Once Clemson took the lead, I didn't see us moving the ball successfully enough to win.

 

[xc84]

Michigan lost that game to Appalachin State. SU won the game against Villanova. Let's move on.

 

[Ozcuse]

Wins and losses are what counts so let's just win and the hand wringing, second guessing, and negative clouds go away.

 

[SBro44]

If team A has 500 yds of offense and holds the team B to less than a hundred in the 2nd half, then team A is most likely winning the game. End of story.

As for being on par with the rest of the NE, here's your numbers nationally through last week (out of 128 teams), followed by W-L:

Syracuse ... Total O: #93 / Total D: #38 - (3-6)
Maryland ... Total O: #109 / Total D: #89 ... (6-3)
Boston College ... Total O: #68 / Total D: #11 ... (6-3)
Rutgers ... Total O: #90 / Total D: #82 ... (5-4)
Pitt ... Total O: #52 / Total D: #20 ... (4-5)
Penn St ... Total O: #110 / Total D: #3 ... (4-4)
UCONN ... Total O: #125 / Total D: #48 ... (2-6)

I'd take any of those W-L records outside of UCONN. Clearly Maryland is getting lucky, while our w-l is out of whack with our #'s (pointing to a lot of close games). Pitt is similar to us in that their #'s aren't translating to W's. But they are better than us #'s wise.

Here's the same breakdown, only putting them in order after averaging their D and O rankings:

1. Pitt: 36
2. BC: 39.5
3. Penn St: 56.5
4. Syracuse: 65.5
5. Rutgers: 86
6. UCONN: 86.5
7. Maryland: 99

Throw my Temple Owls in the mix... We are northeast... we are 5-3... we beat a ranked team this year for the 1st time since 98... and we beat UCONN (who made the list) by 26

 

[Ozcuse]

Throw my Temple Owls in the mix... We are northeast... we are 5-3... we beat a ranked team this year for the 1st time since 98... and we beat UCONN (who made the list) by 26

Can we borrow some players bro? They may not get returned in the same condition as we received them...

 

[ImperialOrange]

You realize that being within a TD at the final buzzer is a faulty metric, right?

The NC State game shows this perfectly. We didn't get within a TD until the final minute. But we had the lead in the 3rd and looked like the very definition of a close game. How about Clemson? We were leading that game by 3 at the half and within a TD until the last half go the 4th Q when Clemson scored a TD late?

Again - the MD game was a travesty. We gave up 1 good drive, 1 broken play on O, and a pick 6. If you remove just the last 2 (the horrible screen pass we misplayed and Hunt's pick 6) - it's an entirely different game.

Don't forget the horrid blocked punt which started it all in the MD game:

Was 17-13 MD
MD blocked punt, 28 yard TD 24-13 MD
Cuse drives to the MD 17 and throws an 88 yard pick 6 on 2nd down 31-13 MD
Cuse drives 67 yards in 3 plays, Cuse 5 yard penalty, Cuse 10 yard penalty, 4 yard run, Cuse 10 yard penalty, 15 yard run, 6 yard run, MISSED FG 31-13 MD

That last drive we took over on our own 25, gained 92 yards, and came up with no points.

 

[MSOrange]

I'm just glad we could start a thread with Richmond in the topic. It brings back such good memories!

 

[xc84]

I'm just glad we could start a thread with Richmond in the topic. It brings back such good memories!

Yeah...but wrong sport.