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Message: [QUOTE="Resonator, post: 728003, member: 2824"] I would not go making any kind of automatic predictions that you'll run all over Wake, at least in football. As long as Jim Grobe is there, they will be competitive, and, a very tough out, on the football field. UNC sure has struggled with them. And, if you doubt me, just ask Clemson, FSU, and, NCSU fans. Wake has punched above their weight against all of them. Basketball will be another story. They are flat out bad right now. Their HC, Jeff Bzdelik, was a former NBA HC, but, he's done next to nothing at Wake (34-59). I really believe that they would've been a lot better had Skip Prosser not unexpectedly passed away in 2007. His successor, Dino Gaudio, led them to three 20-win seasons, and, two NCAATs, before he was fired. I don't recall why straight away. So, just be wary of Wake. They will be capable of upsetting SU if you overlook them. [/QUOTE]