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Now that we've landed Folefac, are there any guard prospects we are pursuing to finalize roster?

It would be nice to have a pure point guard like a Cadeau, but, if there isn’t one available for you, what do you do? I guess you go with what you have and plan an offense of various combo guards handling the ball. It’s that simple. We can’t create a model pg out of thin air.
 
It would be nice to have a pure point guard like a Cadeau, but, if there isn’t one available for you, what do you do? I guess you go with what you have and plan an offense of various combo guards handling the ball. It’s that simple. We can’t create a model pg out of thin air.
Just a reminder but Cadeau wasn't some allstar before Michigan. Going by 247 he was the 14th best point guard in last years class. Nate George was rated better at #13 PG.

Point Guards can't do much without the pieces that fit together and a frontcourt.

Think about our stud point guards through those great years. They had big pieces that fit, lots of options.
 
We will be adding another point guard. Remember where you heard it.
Hypothetically, hypothetically, could Judah Mintz have eligibility left? Technically forfeited 2 years of eligibility. He's never played in an NBA game or drafted. Only 22 years old. I feel like we've seen more egregious cases in College Basketball. I got a feeling he wouldn't have dipped out of college early if Gerry was the coach...that would be a major splash. And I have been a Garwey Dual defender here and how it would be difficult to get anyone even with all the options on the table that would start over him. Judah would though lol.
 
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Hypothetically, hypothetically, could Judah Mintz have eligibility left? Technically forfeited 2 years of eligibility. He's never played in an NBA game or drafted. Only 22 years old. I feel like we've seen more egregious cases in College Basketball. I got a feeling he wouldn't have dipped out of college early if Gerry was the coach...that would be a major splash. And I have been a Garwey Dual defender here and how it would be difficult to get anyone even with all the options on the table that would start over him. Judah would though lol.
Well that would be...Interesting. This would be Judah's 5th year as he was a 2022 kid.

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It would be nice to have a pure point guard like a Cadeau, but, if there isn’t one available for you, what do you do? I guess you go with what you have and plan an offense of various combo guards handling the ball. It’s that simple. We can’t create a model pg out of thin air.
They way some on this board talk you'd think multiple versions of Chris Paul and Hakeem Olajuwan were sitting in the portal and Syracuse simply aren't pursuing them.

Reality is most NBA ready players are entered in the draft OR returning to their same school for massive pay days.

I'd be curious what "better" players are currently available that people think we should be after at PG or C? Also which "better" players WERE available that we had a chance in hell to win bidding wars for at PG or C?

Portal is always going to be sorting through mid-major players to find best fits. At the very least we will be much tougher defensively as a given. If all/any incoming players get marginally better shooting in the offseason we're probably going to be better there as well. Certainly should be less turnover prone. The bar currently is be better than .500 and ideally 20+ wins. The current roster should be able to do that. The 92 dream team isn't walking through our, or anyone else's door.
 
Well that would be...Interesting. This would be Judah's 5th year as he was a 2022 kid.

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Yes, as of late 2025, players can move from the NBA G League (formerly D-League) back to college, a shift driven by legal challenges to NCAA amateurism rules. Players must generally be within five years of high school graduation, have eligibility remaining, and not have signed a direct NBA contract.
FOX Sports +4
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  • Precedent Set: Players like Thierry Darlan (G League Ignite to Santa Clara) and London Johnson (G League to Louisville) have paved the way for this transition.
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So he did sign an Exhibit 10 contract, but like for example Providence Dink Pate signed an Exhibit 10. Bryson Warren of Texas Tech also signed an Exhibit 10 contract.
 
Just a reminder but Cadeau wasn't some allstar before Michigan. Going by 247 he was the 14th best point guard in last years class. Nate George was rated better at #13 PG.

Point Guards can't do much without the pieces that fit together and a frontcourt.

Think about our stud point guards through those great years. They had big pieces that fit, lots of options.
Agreed. I seem to remember most, if not all, of us were pretty happy when we signed George. I personally was not a Cadeau fan. And a quick check of his stats shows Cadeau was pretty much the same player at Michigan he was at UNC. He improved his 3fg% from 33% to 37%. He was a beast in the tournament no doubt, but his team was loaded. My concern is that many people are projecting players from Siena and McNeese State to do things at Syracuse, that they didn't do at Siena or McNeese St.
 
So he did sign an Exhibit 10 contract, but like for example Providence Dink Pate signed an Exhibit 10. Bryson Warren of Texas Tech also signed an Exhibit 10 contract.
Ah that does appear to be the case. I think that rules out his return to college then.
 
Just a reminder but Cadeau wasn't some allstar before Michigan. Going by 247 he was the 14th best point guard in last years class. Nate George was rated better at #13 PG.

Point Guards can't do much without the pieces that fit together and a frontcourt.

Think about our stud point guards through those great years. They had big pieces that fit, lots of options.
Think about sherm, had Ronnie, DC, Stevie Billy, Dave Johnson, and others.
 
Ah that does appear to be the case. I think that rules out his return to college then.
Kind of, though Bediako for example signed a 2 way contract. Judah may actually have a better argument. All of this is hypothetical lol
 
They way some on this board talk you'd think multiple versions of Chris Paul and Hakeem Olajuwan were sitting in the portal and Syracuse simply aren't pursuing them.

Reality is most NBA ready players are entered in the draft OR returning to their same school for massive pay days.

I'd be curious what "better" players are currently available that people think we should be after at PG or C? Also which "better" players WERE available that we had a chance in hell to win bidding wars for at PG or C?

Portal is always going to be sorting through mid-major players to find best fits. At the very least we will be much tougher defensively as a given. If all/any incoming players get marginally better shooting in the offseason we're probably going to be better there as well. Certainly should be less turnover prone. The bar currently is be better than .500 and ideally 20+ wins. The current roster should be able to do that. The 92 dream team isn't walking through our, or anyone else's door.

Personally, I think we did just fine @ center.

Point guard... we're rolling the dice a little bit.

And I'm not conninced by the argument that we're solid because Tobiason and Doty have the ability to put it on the floor a little bit. Neither of those guys are suited to log big minutes as lead guard, except for "break glass in case of emergency" scenario.
 
Portal is always going to be sorting through mid-major players to find best fits. At the very least we will be much tougher defensively as a given. If all/any incoming players get marginally better shooting in the offseason we're probably going to be better there as well. Certainly should be less turnover prone. The bar currently is be better than .500 and ideally 20+ wins. The current roster should be able to do that. The 92 dream team isn't walking through our, or anyone else's door.
I really hope that's not the expectation (a winning record). I believe the bar is making the tournament. The fact that some see this as a tall task is indicative of how far we've fallen as a program.
 
I really hope that's not the expectation (a winning record). I believe the bar is making the tournament. The fact that some see this as a tall task is indicative of how far we've fallen as a program.
The bar is making the tournament.

Anything less than that requires excuses.
 
Agreed. I seem to remember most, if not all, of us were pretty happy when we signed George. I personally was not a Cadeau fan. And a quick check of his stats shows Cadeau was pretty much the same player at Michigan he was at UNC. He improved his 3fg% from 33% to 37%. He was a beast in the tournament no doubt, but his team was loaded. My concern is that many people are projecting players from Siena and McNeese State to do things at Syracuse, that they didn't do at Siena or McNeese St.
Wait he increased his 3fg% from 33 to 37%? That is not possible! I have been told by multiple people on this board who are clearly coaches (armchair) and it's been either said or suggested that players can't get better at shooting. (Not saying you said that CuseinCincy). It's just not possible!! It was suggested unequivocally that players can't get better.
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Interesting that Cadeau was able to do so.
 
We will be adding another point guard. Remember where you heard it.

I mean, multiple people have been saying it for a bit now, that we are still looking at PG’s.
 

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