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[orangefog]

Efton Reid(LSU Center) - In the portal

I like this guy, but I am sure he is looking for more than 10 minutes per game. He played with Benny at IMG. If he is willing to come in and get 10-15 minutes as backup center and prepare to be the starter the next year, then we need to go for it. With regard to forward, if Cole decides to leave and we don't see anything in the portal, I think we should look at Europe. We've done well with game ready, albeit skinny, Euros over the past decade.

 

[Cuse'91]

I like this guy, but I am sure he is looking for more than 10 minutes per game. He played with Benny at IMG. If he is willing to come in and get 10-15 minutes as backup center and prepare to be the starter the next year, then we need to go for it. With regard to forward, if Cole decides to leave and we don't see anything in the portal, I think we should look at Europe. We've done well with game ready, albeit skinny, Euros over the past decade.

Didn't know about the Benny/IMG connection. Come in and compete for minutes; at center, or power forward. Injuries and foul trouble make for strange bedfellows.

 

[orangefog]

Didn't know about the Benny/IMG connection. Come in and compete for minutes; at center, or power forward. Injuries and foul trouble make for strange bedfellows.

It’s a tough sell, but worthy of a try.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I like this guy, but I am sure he is looking for more than 10 minutes per game. He played with Benny at IMG. If he is willing to come in and get 10-15 minutes as backup center and prepare to be the starter the next year, then we need to go for it. With regard to forward, if Cole decides to leave and we don't see anything in the portal, I think we should look at Europe. We've done well with game ready, albeit skinny, Euros over the past decade.

We are done with freshmen either in Europe or the US.

I think Taylor starts at the 3 if Cole leaves.

 

[GoCuse14]

Too many people think we need someone like Anselem, mcneil, watkins this season.

And why do you think that we dont?

 

[Trueblue25]

Okay, we are not bringing in another forward unless Cole leaves. Even then, JB isn't sure he wants to. The reason we got Mintz is Benny. And the reason that we still have Benny is because we aren't bringing in a portal forward to possible replace him. That isn't a guess. I wish we could. I wanted another forward until it was explained to me.

Not even a stretch 4?

 

[Trueblue25]

Too many people think we need someone like Anselem, mcneil, watkins this season.

Someone who can defend and rebound?

 

[Cuseball]

Efton Reid(LSU Center) - In the portal

zero chance he would come here to backup Jesse.

 

[CardiacCuse]

I’d be in favor of bringing in a “Jimmy” level guy ASAP, who will actually come off the bench and play 15-18 mpg. The freshmen ’s can either sit for a year….or beat him out.

And gives insurance in case Cole leaves, so we aren’t left with only Benny and freshmen.

the idea that portal players MUST be 35min a game players and featured stars is wacked out to me...

give a mid major or ivy league type player to be a bench option that does play for a brand name team like SYR and there will be serious options out there for sure...

Center seems an absolute neccessity

4th forward seems a strong need. what if bunch and brown are similar to what benny was as a frosh? what if benny doesnt improve over the summer??? the potential for a huge hole in the team at forward is there so reinforcing that position seems a no-brainer. (that said, it could still be a strength of the team if the freshman are ready and benny makes a leap)

Gaurd now seems pretty solid with mintz, joe, sy and quadir/taylor etc

i'd go minimum 2 portalers - Center (maybe 2 C's) and 1

 

[Fly Rodder]

Would love to see a 4/5 like Marek, but with Jimmy's post moves. Three forwards and two centers can allow for a lot of mixing and matching and everyone can still get 25-30 mpg.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Would love to see a 4/5 like Marek, but with Jimmy's post moves. Three forwards and two centers can allow for a lot of mixing and matching and everyone can still get 25-30 mpg.

a euro big who can shoot and pass would be sweet

 

[Cuseball]

Another shooter with or without Swider back . We need a portal guy. We need more offense. We’re too dependent on offense from Joe and Cole. I hope the staff isn’t done bringing in players.

At the moment we have no scholarships to give.

if Jon Bol Ajak or Owens go (not sure where either of them go) and Swider stays then your #1 priority is a backup center who can give you 10 minutes a game.

If Swider goes then you can consider a forward but you only get a big time transfer if you promise a starting spot.

If Swider stays you are not getting another forward. Staff believes in Benny and Benny will be given every chance. As Dasher said, Mintz is here because Benny is here. Benny is here because he will be given the chance to start and likely a promise we are not actively looking for someone to come into his position.

Cuse

 

[TeamGlasses]

And why do you think that we dont?

Too many teams are smaller than us to go after another big guy. The glaring whole on this team is the 6-6 ro 6-9 inch tough forward that can mess around inside and get his own shot but can shoot the 3 well enough to make defenses keep guessing.

More like a Dolezaj, Roberts, Donte Greene player.

 

[TeamGlasses]

At the moment we have no scholarships to give.

if Jon Bol Ajak or Owens go (not sure where either of them go) and Swider stays then your #1 priority is a backup center who can give you 10 minutes a game.

If Swider goes then you can consider a forward but you only get a big time transfer if you promise a starting spot.

If Swider stays you are not getting another forward. Staff believes in Benny and Benny will be given every chance. As Dasher said, Mintz is here because Benny is here. Benny is here because he will be given the chance to start and likely a promise we are not actively looking for someone to come into his position.

Cuse

Would you agree Benny would never man the middle of the zone? So Id so we dont need a backup center but a 4 that can man the middle and cause matchup problems for opposing teams.

Benny is unproven. Lets hold him accountable for his season and not just promise him a starting position...even if Cole decided to leave I wouldnt promise him that after his dud of a freshman year.

 

[cuseincincy]

the idea that portal players MUST be 35min a game players and featured stars is wacked out to me...

Me too. Find a guy similar to Patrick Tape (him again?) Yeah he was supposed to be "all that" when he went to Duke after Columbia, found out he really wasn't, ended up starting 34 games for San Francisco his 6th year, still only played 20 minutes per game. We could easily find 20 minutes per game for a veteran 4/5 type. With or Without Cole.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Me too. Find a guy similar to Patrick Tape (him again?) Yeah he was supposed to be "all that" when he went to Duke after Columbia, found out he really wasn't, ended up starting 34 games for San Francisco his 6th year, still only played 20 minutes per game. We could easily find 20 minutes per game for a veteran 4/5 type. With or Without Cole.

if the alternatives are:

empty roster spots minimal bench depth and no portalers

OR

bench portal players that arent superstars

im picking having a bench 100 out of 100 times.

of course if you can land a star in the portal you have to grab him too - a losing season should mean all bets off - just win.

 

[Day2]

I’d be in favor of bringing in a “Jimmy” level guy ASAP, who will actually come off the bench and play 15-18 mpg. The freshmen ’s can either sit for a year….or beat him out.

And gives insurance in case Cole leaves, so we aren’t left with only Benny and freshmen.

So…Charles Pride?

 

[Niastri]

At the moment we have no scholarships to give.

if Jon Bol Ajak or Owens go (not sure where either of them go) and Swider stays then your #1 priority is a backup center who can give you 10 minutes a game.

If Swider goes then you can consider a forward but you only get a big time transfer if you promise a starting spot.

If Swider stays you are not getting another forward. Staff believes in Benny and Benny will be given every chance. As Dasher said, Mintz is here because Benny is here. Benny is here because he will be given the chance to start and likely a promise we are not actively looking for someone to come into his position.

Cuse

If Swider stays we don't have room for another forward anyway...

Swider plays 35 minutes, leaving 45 to be shared by Williams, Bunch, Brown, Carey, Taylor and JBA. Highly unlikely anybody comes to enter that rotation, especially if Benny Williams is being promised first crack at it.

EDIT: I forgot Bunch the first time.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I have nothing other than instinct on this one, but I think Carey may be a hidden gem and solution to the PF/C depth we’re seeking.

 

[Orangezoo]

I have nothing other than instinct on this one, but I think Carey may be a hidden gem and solution to the PF/C depth we’re seeking.

If we lose Cole and don't add another forward, the only good thing and that itself is just relative is that there are five guys to look at and see if they can step up. That implies Benny makes the jump though.

I just hope Cole sees the real opportunity to be the leader and face of a better team and one that will be on the national radar again. He will be playing with one of the top College Centers in the country, top freshmen Gs in the country and one of the best shooters in the country in Joe alongside himself.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Okay, we are not bringing in another forward unless Cole leaves. Even then, JB isn't sure he wants to. The reason we got Mintz is Benny. And the reason that we still have Benny is because we aren't bringing in a portal forward to possible replace him. That isn't a guess. I wish we could. I wanted another forward until it was explained to me.

Dasher: Is that philosophy based upon: 1) Benny turned the corner and the coaches are confident he is ready to be a player, or 2) they think Judah Mintz is that good that they are ready to sacrifice forward play to land him; or 3) some combination thereof?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

zero chance he would come here to backup Jesse.

IMO, Jesse can play a Rick Jackson style 4

 

[721Comstock]

IMO, Jesse can play a Rick Jackson style 4

I agree.

He’s more agile (and longer ) than RickJack, and has more potential for a faceup game than Rick ever did or will.

IF we get a big bruiser like Ballard, I’d really like to see us play them both like this for at least 10 mins/game.

UNC can trot out 2 large humans at a time on the regular (and typically abuse us inside doing so), why can’t we?

 

[Sherman20]

If Swider stays we don't have room for another forward anyway...

Swider plays 35 minutes, leaving 45 to be shared by Williams, Brown, Carey, Taylor and JBA. Highly unlikely anybody comes to enter that rotation, especially if Benny Williams is being promised first crack at it.

Plus Bunch.

 

[dasher]

Dasher: Is that philosophy based upon: 1) Benny turned the corner and the coaches are confident he is ready to be a player, or 2) they think Judah Mintz is that good that they are ready to sacrifice forward play to land him; or 3) some combination thereof?

yes. Seriously, I really don't know they why. I would imagine it is a combo of the 3