Observations on Terrel Hunt

[OrangePA]

During the chat last night DR mentioned that at the end of 2012 John Kinder was ahead of T. Hunt on the depth chart.

Apparently there was some thought that Hunt might be moved to a DB position.

The move to get Drew Allen would seem to support the notion that the Marrone staff and the Shafer staff saw a real need to upgrade the position - quickly.

So, it seems that Terrel not only developed very quickly but surprised a lot of people - maybe more than many of us figured.

 

[Chip]

Unfortunately I had to miss the chat. But I thought I had heard some good things about Hunt at QB. In fact, I thought I remember Marrone dropping a few hints about him at his weekly "don't tell anyone what I'm about to tell you" lunches.

But then he had the unfortunate off the field incident and missed that entire spring. Which threw him backwards on the depth chart.

Not surprised that either staff wanted a better solution in the short term. Much like wanting Paulus when we got him. It's hard to be a new OC and be handed a young QB who has never played.

I just really hope he keeps developing. The end of the season was encouraging. The middle of the season was terrifying.

 

[Crusty]

Hunt has a lot of confidence and leadership ability. If he continues to develop he could really be something special by the end of the season. At that point some of the new kids might be helping as well.

 

[Stern]

Hunt really improved as the season went on. Those last few games he was really really good. If he continues to improve look out I think the sky is the limit

 

[Cuseregular]

Hunt really improved as the season went on. Those last few games he was really really good. If he continues to improve look out I think the sky is the limit

at the risk of being blashphemous I think he can be as serviceable as we've seen (keep us in and win more than lose to the teams of our caliber), but I don't think he's the guy who can get this program and team to the next level so to speak. This because his athleticism is somewhat limited as is his arm strength. Tough to teach and overcome this especially the latter.

That all being said since he's the one who has led this program back into real respectability with some resounding success and W's, he full well deserves to be the #1 guy in spring and fall. He demonstrated the ability to improve through his progressions, better hit the open guy and make some smart decisions. So the #2 is going to need to be light years better to have a shot to supplant him. He is deserved of any accolade and respect, the starting role and the chance to prove he can be the guy to get competitive with the FSU's and Clemsons of the world, but they (the coaches) need keep they eye toward his successor that may have more of the attributes needed for future successes to get to the next level they hope to achieve. Meaning get this #2 on the field as much as possible in the appropriate circumstances.

It's a good situation to be in IMO and will be fun to watch play out next year.

 

[Whitey23]

Unfortunately I had to miss the chat.

Just for you, it's posted over on the lax board.

 

[Moontan]

Just for you, it's posted over on the lax board.

There's even talk of recruiting younger boys for lax.

 

[OrangePA]

Unfortunately I had to miss the chat. But I thought I had heard some good things about Hunt at QB. In fact, I thought I remember Marrone dropping a few hints about him at his weekly "don't tell anyone what I'm about to tell you" lunches.

But then he had the unfortunate off the field incident and missed that entire spring. Which threw him backwards on the depth chart.

Not surprised that either staff wanted a better solution in the short term. Much like wanting Paulus when we got him. It's hard to be a new OC and be handed a young QB who has never played.

I just really hope he keeps developing. The end of the season was encouraging. The middle of the season was terrifying.

My impression had been the same as yours - that Hunt was viewed favorably by Marrone and that the lost spring had impacted his development.

That is why what was discussed in the chat caught me by surprise.

 

[anomander]

Hunt has a lot of confidence and leadership ability. If he continues to develop he could really be something special by the end of the season. At that point some of the new kids might be helping as well.

I think his leadership is something that gets overlooked. He has become the leader of the team. The team has confidence in him. Not comparing him to Tebow, but his intangibles are off the charts just like Tim, who proved you can be a very successful college quarterback without having a great arm, or speed.

 

[TheCusian]

I think his leadership is something that gets overlooked. He has become the leader of the team. The team has confidence in him. Not comparing him to Tebow, but his intangibles are off the charts just like Tim, who proved you can be a very successful college quarterback without having a great arm, or speed.

I was listening to an interview with Drew Brees and he was saying that being a great NFL QB was like 85% leadership and intangibles. The next biggest thing was understanding of the offense - then arm strength and athleticism. Not sure I agree on the breakdown completely - but I do like that our guy has the 85% in spades.

 

[OrangePA]

I think his leadership is something that gets overlooked. He has become the leader of the team. The team has confidence in him. Not comparing him to Tebow, but his intangibles are off the charts just like Tim, who proved you can be a very successful college quarterback without having a great arm, or speed.

He Is A Leader, No Doubt.

 

[Stern]

at the risk of being blashphemous I think he can be as serviceable as we've seen (keep us in and win more than lose to the teams of our caliber), but I don't think he's the guy who can get this program and team to the next level so to speak. This because his athleticism is somewhat limited as is his arm strength. Tough to teach and overcome this especially the latter.

You are selling him short. He can be much better than he is. Quicken up the delivery and release and his progressions and I think he can improve greatly. Arm strength is overrated

 

[ImperialOrange]

I think his leadership is something that gets overlooked. He has become the leader of the team. The team has confidence in him. Not comparing him to Tebow, but his intangibles are off the charts just like Tim, who proved you can be a very successful college quarterback without having a great arm, or speed.

Don't you dare compare him to Tebow! I learned that the hard way.

Meanwhile, I think it SS was quoted as telling TH he'd make a damn fine safety early on but TH stayed the course to prove he was better suited to play QB. I don't know how many games TH can win us by himself BUT he has proven to be capable in the clutch if his surrounding cast obliges. Also, I expect him to be used more frequently as a running threat from here out. The risk of him getting injured last year was scary. We would have had to hand the reigns back to Allen or finally seen the Charlie Loeb show (which I was in favor of at some points but the staff obviously not). In the BC game and the bowl game we had nothing to lose and he ran 17 and 15 times respectively. We were 4-1 when he ran at least 10 times on the season and as teams had to account for his running ability more his completion % went up as well. To go a step further, we won every game he started and ran for at least 4.9 YPC and lost every game he didn't.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

Hate to go against conventional wisdom but I thought we completed more long passes this year than in recent memory. That includes long balls which, while not spectacular, had some completed ... that is a huge improvement. Hunt's screen passes improved considerably as well as the season wore on.

I think Hunt demonstrated he is coachable and has all the skills we need. Not a lot of turnovers, that is a huge plus. He continues to need work on checking down on his receivers. A better running game and open receivers on slants and long balls would help him immensely.

 

[TheCusian]

Hate to go against conventional wisdom but I thought we completed more long passes this year than in recent memory. That includes long balls which, while not spectacular, had some completed ... that is a huge improvement. Hunt's screen passes improved considerably as well as the season wore on. I think Hunt demonstrated he is coachable and has all the skills we need. Not a lot of turnovers, that is a huge plus. He continues to need work on checking down on his receivers. A better running game and open receivers on slants and long balls would help him immensely.

Agreed. Like to him anticipate throws more too.

 

[Cuseregular]

You are selling him short. He can be much better than he is. Quicken up the delivery and release and his progressions and I think he can improve greatly. Arm strength is overrated

You could be right, I hope so. Such a good kid and deserved of the chance to prove that correct. That said those things are tough to coach up. Something to look forward to for next year to see if it can be done.

 

[RF2044]

You could be right, I hope so. Such a good kid and deserved of the chance to prove that correct. That said those things are tough to coach up. Something to look forward to for next year to see if it can be done.

I don't believe that it would take much improvement for him to consistently perform at the level he showed the final three games of the season. If he did that [without taking things to the veritable "next level"], we'd still be in a great position with him under helm.

That's my expectation--not that he'll make some miraculous transformation, but rather that he'll prove to be about as good as he was at his best last year--which will provide us with a pretty damn good QB these next two seasons.

And if one of the young QBs is good enough to beat him out, with him being as good as he was during the aforementioned stretch, then disco. We're in great shape at QB.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Hunt has a lot of confidence and leadership ability. If he continues to develop he could really be something special by the end of the season. At that point some of the new kids might be helping as well.

Hunt has to learn to throw a better ball this spring (not just deep balls, but use the TE and hit more balls over the middle), and we have to be able to run plays faster with fewer illegal procedure penalties. Those are the 2 things I'm hoping for from Spring football. We have 4 out of 5 starter back on the OL (although Mackey was their leader ...), we finished strong and MacDonald has a year as OC under his belt. I just hope we keep our RB Coach, so we're not working in 3 new guys on that side of the ball.

 

[Orangeyes]

Apparently there was some thought that Hunt might be moved to a DB position.
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HCSS said he talked to TH a long time ago and said you'd be a hell of a safety and he said, "Ah no coach, I'm a quarterback."

Hunt said the first day going into the spring he was 3rd string QB and thought, no that has to change.

He had the mindset that he had to be the 1st string QB and lead the team to wins and victories.

After the first practice as the third team QB he had a talk with coach Shafer and told him flat out, "I'm going to be your starting quarterback!" HCSS said, "I like that."

 

[Crusty]

Hunt has to learn to throw a better ball this spring (not just deep balls, but use the TE and hit more balls over the middle), and we have to be able to run plays faster with fewer illegal procedure penalties. Those are the 2 things I'm hoping for from Spring football. We have 4 out of 5 starter back on the OL (although Mackey was their leader ...), we finished strong and MacDonald has a year as OC under his belt. I just hope we keep our RB Coach, so we're not working in 3 new guys on that side of the ball.

I just don't understand the illegal procedure penalties. We get them at home as well as at away games where there is no crowd noise. At NCS and MD Orange fans were literally louder than the home team.

I understand Shafer's view that penalties committed in the act of making plays must be largely excused becasue they are usually judgment calls and he doesn't want to reduce the teams aggressive style of play. That said, illegal procedure, illegal formation, too many in the huddle and stupid PF's are hard to understand. We have been doing this for years - Marrone's teams did the same thing. I just don't get it why the staff has not been able to at least reduce them.

 

[jgeorge322]

at the risk of being blashphemous I think he can be as serviceable as we've seen (keep us in and win more than lose to the teams of our caliber), but I don't think he's the guy who can get this program and team to the next level so to speak. This because his athleticism is somewhat limited as is his arm strength. Tough to teach and overcome this especially the latter.

I disagree that he has limited arm strength and athletic ability. I think he has a strong arm and is very athletic, just not fast.

 

[Cuseregular]

I disagree that he has limited arm strength and athletic ability. I think he has a strong arm and is very athletic, just not fast.

Pulling for the kid to grow, mature and evolve to become a top flight qb and get us back to great successes in the top 25!

 

[storange]

at the risk of being blashphemous I think he can be as serviceable as we've seen (keep us in and win more than lose to the teams of our caliber), but I don't think he's the guy who can get this program and team to the next level so to speak. This because his athleticism is somewhat limited as is his arm strength. Tough to teach and overcome this especially the latter.

That all being said since he's the one who has led this program back into real respectability with some resounding success and W's, he full well deserves to be the #1 guy in spring and fall. He demonstrated the ability to improve through his progressions, better hit the open guy and make some smart decisions. So the #2 is going to need to be light years better to have a shot to supplant him. He is deserved of any accolade and respect, the starting role and the chance to prove he can be the guy to get competitive with the FSU's and Clemsons of the world, but they (the coaches) need keep they eye toward his successor that may have more of the attributes needed for future successes to get to the next level they hope to achieve. Meaning get this #2 on the field as much as possible in the appropriate circumstances.

It's a good situation to be in IMO and will be fun to watch play out next year.

Not fast but very athletic, i watched the tape of the last couple games and marveled at the fact that the first tackler could never get him and often not the second and third. He has room for improvement throwing for sure but I have a lot of confidence in TH

 

[CousCuse]

I disagree that he has limited arm strength and athletic ability. I think he has a strong arm and is very athletic, just not fast.

Also in the Pitt game he hit 2 other guys in the hands in the endzone ,but they didn't bring them in . And there was another long pass to Funderburk and the announcer said it looked like a touchdown , but the entire play wasn't covered , the camera just stayed on the pass rush and Hunt's throw. And I still don't understand how spearing wasn't called on our last play on offense?

 

[jgeorge322]

Also in the Pitt game he hit 2 other guys in the hands in the endzone ,but they didn't bring them in . And there was another long pass to Funderburk and the announcer said it looked like a touchdown , but the entire play wasn't covered , the camera just stayed on the pass rush and Hunt's throw. And I still don't understand how spearing wasn't called on our last play on offense?

I had a great view for one of them. The TE, maybe Moore, dropped it.