Offensive Output Numbers - Last 10 years

[Louie and Bouie]

Here they are:

2005 - 257 ypg / 13.81 ppg
2006 - 264 ypg / 17.41 ppg
2007 - 291 ypg / 16.41 ppg
2008 - 270 ypg / 18.08 ppg
2009 - 330 ypg / 21.16 ppg
2010 - 322 ypg / 22.15 ppg
2011 - 348 ypg / 24.16 ppg
2012 - 476 ypg / 30 ppg
2013 - 376 ypg / 22.69 ppg
2014 - 411 ypg / 21.6 ppg

Outside of Nassib senior year (and i am of the school that Nassib was the reason for the offensive output that year) the offensive numbers are close to or better than under Marrone and much better than the GROB years which people have inexplicably begun to compare McDonald's offense.

On a numbers standpoint, the mid-season decision to make the demotion call simply isn't justified. One of the 3 dropped/called back TD's from last game alone would have brought 2014 to 23 ppg which eclipses our average scoring for the last 10 years outside of 2012. And the numbers don't take into account the questionable (kind word) QB play since 2012 or the key injuries at WR this year.

The only possible rational idea that makes sense to me (outside of McDonalds personality which seemingly rubs alot of people the wrong way) is that Shafer knew McDonalds offense wouldn't work once Hunt was gone so the double change of OC and QB was made simultaneously as we move in a different direction based upon the new personnel.

Obviously, I don't agree with the decision especially in light of how it was handled and the aftermath as it makes the program look dysfunctional at a time when we need to look competent and unified. I think the numbers have to be taken into account as to expectations and where we're coming from and going. In the passion of it all, I think people seem to forget about those things.

LGO!!!! Shock the world!!!!

 

[Millhouse]

Here they are:

2005 - 257 ypg / 13.81 ppg
2006 - 264 ypg / 17.41 ppg
2007 - 291 ypg / 16.41 ppg
2008 - 270 ypg / 18.08 ppg
2009 - 330 ypg / 21.16 ppg
2010 - 322 ypg / 22.15 ppg
2011 - 348 ypg / 24.16 ppg
2012 - 476 ypg / 30 ppg
2013 - 376 ypg / 22.69 ppg
2014 - 411 ypg / 21.6 ppg

Outside of Nassib senior year (and i am of the school that Nassib was the reason for the offensive output that year) the offensive numbers are close to or better than under Marrone and much better than the GROB years which people have inexplicably begun to compare McDonald's offense.

On a numbers standpoint, the mid-season decision to make the demotion call simply isn't justified. One of the 3 dropped/called back TD's from last game alone would have brought 2014 to 23 ppg which eclipses our average scoring for the last 10 years outside of 2012. And the numbers don't take into account the questionable (kind word) QB play since 2012 or the key injuries at WR this year.

The only possible rational idea that makes sense to me (outside of McDonalds personality which seemingly rubs alot of people the wrong way) is that Shafer knew McDonalds offense wouldn't work once Hunt was gone so the double change of OC and QB was made simultaneously as we move in a different direction based upon the new personnel.

Obviously, I don't agree with the decision especially in light of how it was handled and the aftermath as it makes the program look dysfunctional at a time when we need to look competent and unified. I think the numbers have to be taken into account as to expectations and where we're coming from and going. In the passion of it all, I think people seem to forget about those things.

LGO!!!! Shock the world!!!!

if you think that the coach only has an effect on yards, then yes. You're begging the question.

And you're assuming that there weren't drops or bad calls or questionable qb play in those earlier years.

when they're scoring the same as teams that gained almost 100 yards less than them, you have to wonder. That's not all short fields.

 

[Timonen]

Here they are:

2005 - 257 ypg / 13.81 ppg
2006 - 264 ypg / 17.41 ppg
2007 - 291 ypg / 16.41 ppg
2008 - 270 ypg / 18.08 ppg
2009 - 330 ypg / 21.16 ppg
2010 - 322 ypg / 22.15 ppg
2011 - 348 ypg / 24.16 ppg
2012 - 476 ypg / 30 ppg
2013 - 376 ypg / 22.69 ppg
2014 - 411 ypg / 21.6 ppg

Outside of Nassib senior year (and i am of the school that Nassib was the reason for the offensive output that year) the offensive numbers are close to or better than under Marrone and much better than the GROB years which people have inexplicably begun to compare McDonald's offense.

On a numbers standpoint, the mid-season decision to make the demotion call simply isn't justified. One of the 3 dropped/called back TD's from last game alone would have brought 2014 to 23 ppg which eclipses our average scoring for the last 10 years outside of 2012. And the numbers don't take into account the questionable (kind word) QB play since 2012 or the key injuries at WR this year.

The only possible rational idea that makes sense to me (outside of McDonalds personality which seemingly rubs alot of people the wrong way) is that Shafer knew McDonalds offense wouldn't work once Hunt was gone so the double change of OC and QB was made simultaneously as we move in a different direction based upon the new personnel.

Obviously, I don't agree with the decision especially in light of how it was handled and the aftermath as it makes the program look dysfunctional at a time when we need to look competent and unified. I think the numbers have to be taken into account as to expectations and where we're coming from and going. In the passion of it all, I think people seem to forget about those things.

LGO!!!! Shock the world!!!!

couple quick points come to mind:

1-the overall landscape is different so our production compared to average may actually be lower, even though that doesn't show up in the finite yards/points data
2-we're looking after 5 games that included our 1AA opponent, our MAC opponent and maybe the worst D we'll play against (MD). I'd expect the average to only go backwards moving forward.

 

[Alsacs]

Your numbers don't include what the D-1 median numbers were for a college offense. The rules of football have for the most part slanted to the offense's favor. Yards are not a stat that a lot of people will care about. Football is all about points. If you score on short fields or long drives that is all that matters.
Obviously our 2012 offense was the best and the 2005 offense was the worst. We had over 600 yards of offense against Maryland and only scored 20 points.

Shafer canned McDonald because he realized we had a problem and it needed to be addressed. McDonald has gone off the deep end and while Shafer had some of he fanbase angry at him he has the support of the fanbase right now even if some are scared of his job performance.
1 games in 14 games against BCS teams did the McDonald led offense score over 30 points. That is bad plain and simple. Offense should not be this bad.

 

[Franz69]

Dropped TD passes? Remind me again, who coaches the WRs?

 

[GoSU96]

Here they are:

2005 - 257 ypg / 13.81 ppg
2006 - 264 ypg / 17.41 ppg
2007 - 291 ypg / 16.41 ppg
2008 - 270 ypg / 18.08 ppg
2009 - 330 ypg / 21.16 ppg
2010 - 322 ypg / 22.15 ppg
2011 - 348 ypg / 24.16 ppg
2012 - 476 ypg / 30 ppg
2013 - 376 ypg / 22.69 ppg
2014 - 411 ypg / 21.6 ppg

Outside of Nassib senior year (and i am of the school that Nassib was the reason for the offensive output that year) the offensive numbers are close to or better than under Marrone and much better than the GROB years which people have inexplicably begun to compare McDonald's offense.

On a numbers standpoint, the mid-season decision to make the demotion call simply isn't justified. One of the 3 dropped/called back TD's from last game alone would have brought 2014 to 23 ppg which eclipses our average scoring for the last 10 years outside of 2012. And the numbers don't take into account the questionable (kind word) QB play since 2012 or the key injuries at WR this year.

The only possible rational idea that makes sense to me (outside of McDonalds personality which seemingly rubs alot of people the wrong way) is that Shafer knew McDonalds offense wouldn't work once Hunt was gone so the double change of OC and QB was made simultaneously as we move in a different direction based upon the new personnel.

Obviously, I don't agree with the decision especially in light of how it was handled and the aftermath as it makes the program look dysfunctional at a time when we need to look competent and unified. I think the numbers have to be taken into account as to expectations and where we're coming from and going. In the passion of it all, I think people seem to forget about those things.

LGO!!!! Shock the world!!!!

Nassib, adjustment in tempo and approach to game planning and play calling, the fact that all key players were finally healthy and available at the same time, and the biggest, A#1, primary reason, the running game production finally caught up with the development of the rest of the offense. A lot of that was mutually reinforcing but once run game got untracked and the offense became balanced it was unstoppable.

And NONE of those guys were ever defined as "Playmakers" that folks here fixate on.

The sum was much greater than the whole. Great job of coaching and execution led by a Senior QB. The same guys who couldn't get off the line were now getting open because the defense had to adjust to a solid run game. They finally had Lemon AND Sales AND West AND Wales all out there and close to 100% together. When you had Pugh back you had one of the better OL's in D-1.

 

[Chip]

Nassib, adjustment in tempo and approach to game planning and play calling, the fact that all key players were finally healthy and available at the same time, and the biggest, A#1, primary reason, the running game production finally caught up with the development of the rest of the offense. A lot of that was mutually reinforcing but once run game got untracked and the offense became balanced it was unstoppable.

And NONE of those guys were ever defined as "Playmakers" that folks here fixate on.

The sum was much greater than the whole. Great job of coaching and execution led by a Senior QB. The same guys who couldn't get off the line were now getting open because the defense had to adjust to a solid run game. They finally had Lemon AND Sales AND West AND Wales all out there and close to 100% together. When you had Pugh back you had one of the better OL's in D-1.

I know this is all related, but the biggest thing I recall about that 2012 team was 3rd down. 3rd and long, 3rd and medium, 3rd and short, didn't matter. We faced 3rd down quite a bit and seemed to always convert. % had to be off the charts compared to other seasons. Got to the point where I never worried if we didn't move the ball on 1st or 2nd. Can't remember feeling like that since maybe McNabb when I figured if nothing's there he'll just either figure out a way to run for it or run around long enough for someone to get open.

Whatever definition we're using for playmaker, it wasn't the speed of those WRs. It was their understanding of the position and the offense. Especially Lemon. Some guys just have a knack, and he did. Credit Hackett and Marrone for always moving him around too.

 

[anomander]

Nassib, adjustment in tempo and approach to game planning and play calling, the fact that all key players were finally healthy and available at the same time, and the biggest, A#1, primary reason, the running game production finally caught up with the development of the rest of the offense. A lot of that was mutually reinforcing but once run game got untracked and the offense became balanced it was unstoppable.

And NONE of those guys were ever defined as "Playmakers" that folks here fixate on.

The sum was much greater than the whole. Great job of coaching and execution led by a Senior QB. The same guys who couldn't get off the line were now getting open because the defense had to adjust to a solid run game. They finally had Lemon AND Sales AND West AND Wales all out there and close to 100% together. When you had Pugh back you had one of the better OL's in D-1.

His Senior year Nassib was one of the best playmakers we have had in the last 10 years. He made a ton of big throws, and plays not many people could have made. The late USF td comes to mind.

 

[PhatOrange]

Thanks for the post. I like seeing the numbers. The only thing id nitpick is the point milly raises. For any could woulda should this year, we'd have to say the same for the previous years.

It's really dissappointing to put up good total yard numbers and not be able to translate that to points. Better run game might solve the problem.

 

[GoSU96]

I know this is all related, but the biggest thing I recall about that 2012 team was 3rd down. 3rd and long, 3rd and medium, 3rd and short, didn't matter. We faced 3rd down quite a bit and seemed to always convert. % had to be off the charts compared to other seasons. Got to the point where I never worried if we didn't move the ball on 1st or 2nd. Can't remember feeling like that since maybe McNabb when I figured if nothing's there he'll just either figure out a way to run for it or run around long enough for someone to get open.

Whatever definition we're using for playmaker, it wasn't the speed of those WRs. It was their understanding of the position and the offense. Especially Lemon. Some guys just have a knack, and he did. Credit Hackett and Marrone for always moving him around too.

9th in the country that year.

 

[Millhouse]

I need to check runs vs passes on third down in 2012

We would be much better off not treating third and three or four as an automatic passing down

 

[TheCusian]

Execution and points. That's why he was demoted.

Also rumors of him freezing in the booth and wearing thin with other coaches probably contributed in ways we'll never know.