Official Dion Waiters/Fab Melo 2012 NBA Draft Thread

[jdubs30]

Heat would be ideal for Fab. He's from Florida, he wouldn't be expected to do anything other than give 6 fouls on defense and trade body blows with other teams' centers

Him and Bosh would be one attractive front court

 

[EastCoast2]

Him and Bosh would be one attractive front court

Instead of Lob City they'll be called Goon City

 

[bnoro]

Need to add Scoop as well. He probably has just a good a shot as Joseph of sticking with an NBA team. The PG spot is very thin in the Association. Mike Bibby is still under contract folks!!

Scoop's not going to get drafted, which is actually much better for him. If he's a undrafted FA, he can pick the situation that looks best for him and will give him the best shot to make a team. I think he'll probably make it to last cuts but end up going to Europe and having a long and great career there.

 

[jdubs30]

Scoop's not going to get drafted, which is actually much better for him. If he's a undrafted FA, he can pick the situation that looks best for him and will give him the best shot to make a team. I think he'll probably make it to last cuts but end up going to Europe and having a long and great career there.

I bet Scoop ends up back at 'Cuse coaching similar to GMac. Who knows when that would be though.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Him and Bosh would be one attractive front court

Ummm, he is from Brasilia.

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[EastCoast2]

Ummm, he is from Brasilia.

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by way of Weston, Fl

 

[Rocco]

Stupid knicks, no first rounder...dion would be perfect, this way they wouldnt have to resign landry

Dion would not be a good fit with all of the other huge personalities in NY. Not enough shots to go around amongst Melo, Amare, JR, Lin, Shump, Novak AND Dion. Not enough shots for Melo, Amare and Lin yet alone.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I bet Scoop ends up back at 'Cuse coaching similar to GMac. Who knows when that would be though.

You would have to think that Scoop's professional career lasts longer than GMAC. I'm thinking ten years. If he is going to hold on to MJ's daughter, he will need some cabbage.

 

[RandygoCuse]

i have a feeling fab will be moving up the boards in the next few months.

Definitely. Guys with size don't last too long.

 

[JackBauer44]

Definitely. Guys with size don't last too long.

Total opposite. I tend to last very long...ZING!

 

[IthacaMatt]

Instead of starting 200 threads over the next 2 months, let's talk about our two 2-and-dones and professional prospects here. Latest mock draft has Dion #21 to Boston and Fab #29 to Oklahoma City.

Discuss

As I look at the talent on the board, there are very few "sure things". That's one of the things that strikes me.

I look at Thomas Robinson and see a guy who looks like he's really only about 6-6, but with huge weight-lifter (not basketball player ...) shoulders. I see a guy who couldn't get his shot off against Kentucky in the championship game. NBA players are better than that.

Andre Drummond somebody's mistake.
Harrison Barnes stayed a year too long and got exposed as a Wes Johnson nice guy type who defers too much.
Perry Jones - inconsistent effort and maybe soft.
I look at Terrence Jones at 7 and I think he's probably a more solid 2nd unit player than the 4 guys above him.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I'm in the boat that says Fab has a long career. Just how productive that will be is the question. If the kid spends the next two months working out like crazy (not that he has anything else to do) he'll wow the teams who work him out. He can certainly stick around for a while being a defensive center off the bench. He has the size and athleticism they drool over...

Maybe in Brazil. He's got the skills, but I wonder about the work ethic and the maturity.

 

[Melancer46]

Seton Hall? And that was blocking 6'1 guards

Granted he obviously didn't leave Syracuse on a good note, but let's give the guy some credit. Pope was being talked about as a potential Big East POTY candidate until Fab Melo embarrassed him the likes of which I've never personally seen at any level of basketball. I've never seen a guy hyped up so much get flat out bitchmade the way Pope was in that game.

And Fab did an excellent job on Henry Sims as well, and just did an excellent job this past season. The Rutgers game was more an anomaly than the norm this season.

I think Waiters will be a disappointment to many people here when it's all said and done and I don't think Fab will make a great impact either.

 

[EastCoast2]

Let's play "Best situation" for the SU guys

Dion: Boston - Ray getting old, Bradley is a defensive specialist, could be a big scoring spark off bench immediately

Fab: Miami - would have zero expectations to score. Give 6 fouls and grab rebounds, trade body blows with other teams' centers.

Joseph: New York? What other small forwards do they have?

 

[SWFLCUSE]

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Let's play "Best situation" for the SU guys

Dion: Boston - Ray getting old, Bradley is a defensive specialist, could be a big scoring spark off bench immediately

Fab: Miami - would have zero expectations to score. Give 6 fouls and grab rebounds, trade body blows with other teams' centers.

Joseph: New York? What other small forwards do they have?

I think Atlanta might be a good fit for Dion, They don't really have a guy on the bench that provides instant scoring, plus I think Dion's D is an upgrade over most if not all the gaurds on the Hawk's roster

As for Fab I think you are spot on for Miami, They lack a true young serviceable center, and I think Fab might already be just as good as every big(except Bosh) on their roster.

I think the best opportunity for Joseph to play and maybe impress people enough to keep him around would be Sacramento, but that team is a black hole.

 

[EastCoast2]

I think the best opportunity for Joseph to play and maybe impress people enough to keep him around would be Sacramento, but that team is a black hole.

Dion to Hawks would be a great opportunity for him. Sub in for an aging Joe Johnson.

Kris to Sacramento would be bad for him, IMO. Donte, Garcia, Honeycutt, Outlaw, Salmons, T-Wil... that place is a stable of mediocre wings

 

[IthacaMatt]

Let's play "Best situation" for the SU guys

Dion: Boston - Ray getting old, Bradley is a defensive specialist, could be a big scoring spark off bench immediately

Fab: Miami - would have zero expectations to score. Give 6 fouls and grab rebounds, trade body blows with other teams' centers.

Joseph: New York? What other small forwards do they have?

I just don't see Joseph making it in the NBA. He lacks the explosiveness he used to have on the drive, because he stopped throwing himself recklessly into traffic near the basket, after he took that bad fall and got a concussion a year ago against Providence, I think it was. His dribble skills aren't good enough by themselves. It was the way he really committed to taking it to he rim that made him effective and got him to the line. But he took too many poundings and just doesn't play that way anymore.

 

[EastCoast2]

I just don't see Joseph making it in the NBA. He lacks the explosiveness he used to have on the drive, because he stopped throwing himself recklessly into traffic near the basket, after he took that bad fall and got a concussion a year ago against Providence, I think it was. His dribble skills aren't good enough by themselves. It was the way he really committed to taking it to he rim that made him effective and got him to the line. But he took too many poundings and just doesn't play that way anymore.

I don't think he'll succeed in the NBA either, but in terms of getting the best opportunity, NY may be the place to go, even if it's a mid second round pick.

 

[alphaorange]

NY is not the best place for a SF. Melo is the starting SF when STAT is healthy and when not healthy, Shumpert and Fields have been playing it. There is no real need at all in NY. A SG is more of a need.

 

[Knicks411]

Yeah, I was gonna say, the Knicks are locked into a small forward right now

 

[CuseIsInTheHouse]

ESPN's Chad Ford just posted an article: Dion Waiters, Arnett Moultrie stock rising

"I've been getting a lot of feedback from NBA scouts and executives on our latest Mock Draft 3.0.

This is a pretty good time of year to make any course corrections before the hype of pre-draft camp and individual workouts intervene. Right now GMs and scouts are spending a lot of time on Synergy watching players and aggregating their scouting databases.

A few interesting trends have emerged from those calls.

A sizable group of scouts and execs think we have two players ranked too low on our Big Board: Syracuse' Dion Waiters and Mississippi State's Arnett Moultrie.

A handful of teams have both players ranked in the lottery and a few others in the mid-first round. Waiters' ability to get to the basket at will and Moultrie's size, athleticism and rebounding abilities seem to be tipping the scales."

 

[Melancer46]

I think a good fit for Joseph is just any terrible team, such as Charlotte, Cleveland, Portland, etc. He still won't start or anything, but he could get some minutes for bottom-tier teams.

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

Heck, even Brandon Triche could probably get some burn for the Bobcats right now...